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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 December 07 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget
Sorry all i have is Lochbroom for most of them apart from Christina Stewart who was married to Murdoch Stewart from Liskinelin and i have her down as from Morefield And Murdoch Stewart was born in Lochbroom and died on Isle Martin
if all that makes any sense to you

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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 December 07 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Allan (a good old Stewart forename!)

I see your Stewarts at Ullapool in the 1841 census, try http://www.freecen.org.uk  Roderick there as a Weaver.

Gadget is right that Achiltibuie was possible source for your Stewarts, though I think they were more concentrated in Badenscallie in the early 19th century. Three of the twelve people in the 1798 Militia List at Badenscallie were Stewarts, seven of the fourteen at Achiltibuie were Stewarts, but I think they were then new migrants from Badenscallie, as none of the subtenants at Achiltibuie in 1767 were Stewarts (family heads named in a petition then).

The Stewarts are said to have come to Coigach as refugees following Culloden, see my notes at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~coigach/nbadsc.htm#stewart

A family of emigrants aboard the Sir Allan McNab to van Dieman's Land in 1853 were Stewarts from Isle Martin, possibly not directly connected to your bunch, see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~coigach/mcnab.htm#528

I am tied in knots with the 1798 Lochbroom Militia List, trying to do a surname and forename breakdown, never getting the same count twice, argggg, but will take a boo at what Stewart data I have... if you find a newspaper article on the 1897 tragedy I'd love to have a copy of that for my Coigach website, where I have already a jolly little collection of drowned crofters! My website is at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~coigach

All the best from Niagara,

Donald.


p.e.s. in 1798 there were nine wagons in the Parish of Lochbroom, none of those in Coigach. There were 89 boats and 366 horses.
Primarly Coigach, but also other parts of Ross and Cromarty.

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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 December 07 00:20 GMT (UK) »
WoW
what a wealth of information you are is your site the one with the ruins of a cottage at the top if so i know it well
a lot of my other side of the family was from that area too and they were Macleod's
Thanks for all the links i will plough through them now

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Allan
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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 December 07 10:33 GMT (UK) »
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Gadget is right that Achiltibuie was possible source for your Stewarts, though I think they were more concentrated in Badenscallie in the early 19th century.

Hi Both

As I signed off last night, I thought that I should have said Badenscallie! I was using Achiltibuie in it's broader 'post code' sense. There are still descendants of the Badenscallie Stewarts there today  :)

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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 December 07 02:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi-de-ho

The 1841 census at Ullapool has Roderick as a Weaver, with children;

Margaret born about 1829
Murdoch born about 1831
Janet born about 1833
Christian born about 1835
Kenneth born about 1838
Donald born 1841 (3 months old in 1841 census)

Looking at christenings in the Parish Register (I have photocopys of most pages) I see;

Margaret c. 7 October 1827, father Roderick a Tenant at Leckmelm
Murdo C. 15 July 1830, father Roderick a Weaver at Leckmelm
Janet c. 20 January 1833 at Corrie, father Roderick, occupation not given. Corrie is the farm between Leckmelm and Ullapool.

Though young Margaret's christening date looks early for the census, the age then might be wrong, or a first Margaret died young and a second named for her.

Roderick Stuart (surname spelling was variable in records then), above 30 years of age was noted as a Weaver, resident at Leckmelm, in the 1827 Militia List. Cannot see him in the 1826 list, however he is at Ullapool in 1825 under 30 years of age.

The marriage of Roderick Stewart to Christy MacKenzie is noted as 20 January, 1824, his residence as "Rhuairdacadhail", hers as Leckmelm. I do not think that first place is in Coigach, perhaps Gadget or some other poster might know it.  The first syllable "Rhu" suggests it is a cape on the coast, second syllable "aird" I think meant a cape, next two syllables "acadh" refer to a field, aind the last syllable "ail" included to confuse non-Gaelic speakers like myself, har har.

Regardless, most likely within a generation or two before 1824, these Stewarts were at Badenscallie or Achiltibuie.

Donald.
Primarly Coigach, but also other parts of Ross and Cromarty.

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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 December 07 02:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donald
Thats brilliant :D  loads of great information to get my teeth into and fill some little holes in my tree if it makes it any easier and not be seen to take you for granted  :-[its just in case you come across any of the names i have put all my interests below ;) but also might stop you going up the wrong road

Allan

THE STEWARTS

Roderick Stewart  married  Chirsty Mackenzie
(b1806 Lochbroom)            (b1801 Lochbroom)

Murdo Stewart   married   Christina Stewart
(b1831 Lochbroom)           (b 1828 Morefield)

Kenneth Stewart   married    Isabella Macgregor
(b1856 Isle Martin)               (b1859 Lochbroom)

THE MACGREGORS

Alexander Macgregor   married  Margaret Macdonald
(b1781 Camach LB)                  (b1784 Lochbroom)

Angus Macgregor  married     Mary Mackenzie
(b1812 Camach LB)              (b1822 Camach LB)

THE MACDONALDS

Hector Macdonald   married    Annabella Macdonald
(b1792 Lochbroom)                (b1801 Lochbroom)

THE MACLEODS

John Macleod    married     Margaret Macleod
(b1781 Luib LB)                 (b 1791 Lochbroom)

Murdoch Macleod    1st  married    Elizabeth Dawson           1 dau out of Wedlock Betsey Dawson
(b 1826 Lochbroom)                  (b1819 Lochbroom)            (1819 Lochbroom)
     
                              2nd marriage    Annabella Macdonald
                                                     (1828 Lochbroom)

John Macleod
(b1857 Lochbroom)         
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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 December 07 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donald
Betsey Dawson the child born out of wedlock the birth should be 1853 instead of 1819

Allan
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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 December 07 03:45 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Allan

A few quick notes;

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Alexander Macgregor   married  Margaret Macdonald
(b1781 Camach LB)                  (b1784 Lochbroom)

I assume the place as "Carnach", not my part of the Parish, but there were MacDonalds there, my guess is your Margaret was one of those.

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Hector Macdonald   married    Annabella Macdonald
(b1792 Lochbroom)                (b1801 Lochbroom)

There was a Hector Macdonald above 30 years of age, a Fisher at Morefield in 1826, and Tenant at Fiubeg in 1827.

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Murdoch Macleod    1st  married    Elizabeth Dawson           1 dau out of Wedlock Betsey Dawson
(b 1826 Lochbroom)                  (b1819 Lochbroom)            (1853 Lochbroom)

Dawson was not a North-west Scotland surname, however.... Benjamin Dawson was a Mason at Ullapool in 1798, John Dawson a Fisher at Ullapool in 1826, noted as a Mason in 1827, most likely a son of the 1798 Benjamin, mason.

All the best,

Donald.
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Re: Isle Martin
« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 December 07 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donald
Thanks for that and yes it is Carnach i thought it was wrong when i got it but was not too sure

Allan
My Interests are the Macleod's of Altas, Creich and the Stewarts, Macgregor's, Mackenzie's, Macdonalds, Morrisons and Macleod's of Lochbroom and Isle Martin also Macleod's New Zealand and Macleod's Nova Scotia, Canada