Stephen Butcher Drake

[Phaydra]

I am looking for anything I can find on my ggrandfather . His name was Stephen butcher Drake and his wifes name was Jemima Neeves. I would like to know how many children they had and their birthdates. I have no access to the census, i live in canada. He was born abt 1850. To give you a bit more to go on, I know his fathers name was John Drake, and that at one time he was the proprietor and liscensee of the pavilion hotel on custom house quay on the dover seafront. In 1875 Stephen married jemima. He died in kent in mar 1910, and a year later before june 1 1911, they had come to brantford ontario to live with relatives, but i dont know how they were related.I would like to have earlier census records on him to get a better idea of who he was, but also to get any info on John drake I can, especially any siblings, and who John Drake was married to. can anyone help me??

[aghadowey]

1881 English Census available online (free) at www.familysearch.org:
Custom House Quay Pavilion Hotel, Dover St Mary Virgin, Kent-
John L. Drake 60 b.Chatham Kent licenced vitualer
wife Elizabeth Drake 56 b.Folkestone Kent
dau. Elizabeth Drake 24 b.Dover Kent
dau. Sarah E. Drake 16 b.Dover Kent scholar
Next-
Stephen B. Drake 30 b.Dover Kent engine fitter
wife Jemima N. Drake 27 b.Rye Sussex
dau. Alice M. Drake 4 b.Dover Kent scholar
son Charles E. Drake 2 b.Dover Kent
dau. Mabel E.M/ Drake 2 months b.Dover Kent.

Also on same site is IGI:
Alice Maude Drake christened 30 July 1876 Ewell Kent dau. of Stephen and Jemima Mercy.

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

[fairlane]

1891 England census RG12/744 folio 34 page 26

John Drake 70 Lic. Vict. b. Chatham
Elizabeth "  wife 65 b. Folkestone
Stephen " son 39 Engineer on steam ships b. Dover
Jemima  38 b. Rye
Alice 14
Charles 12
Mabel 10
Jillian 8
John 6
William 3
Hilda 3 mos. All children born Dover
John Neeves 62 boarder widower Bricklayer b. Rye
John Sambrook boarder 34 steam engine maker fitter b. Swindon, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Sambrook wife 34 b. Dover
Cecil 7 b. Dover

Possibly Jemima's father was now living with them as well

Fairlane

[fairlane]

1901 England census RG13/ 839 folio 124 no page number

Vessel "Roubaix"
Stephen Drake - Engineer - married 49 b. Dover

RG13/844/30/6  9 Montrose Ter. Dover

Jemimah Drake 47 Head Married b. Rye
Charles 22 single Marine engine fitter b. Dover
Mabel 20 single School teacher b. Dover
Lillian 18 b. Dover  (not Jillian as last census - tricky L!) b. Dover
John 15 Carpenter apprentice b. Dover
Hilda 10 b. Dover
Albert 7 b. Dover

Hope these help with your research.

Best wishes, Fairlane

[suzard]

This is a possiblity for John
1851
Custom House Quay
Dover
Kent
William Wood Head 65 Publican ? Street
Mary Wood wife 65 Folkstone Kent
Elizabeth Drake daughter M 31 Folkstone
John Drake son M 34 Chatham Kent
Elizabeth Forde U 20 Servant
mary Drake Granddaughter 8 Dover
John Drake grandson 6 Dover
Charles Drake grandson 4 Dover
Stephen Drake grandson 2 Dover
John ?ss W 74 Lodger Folkstone
HO107 1632 543 20

I think John Drake was son in law of William Wood and the grandchildren are John's sons

Suz

[jorose]

www.automatedgenealogy.com shows them on the 1911 census - it looks like John the son of Stephen and Jemima came first, in 1910, with wife Ellen and children Cyril and Fanny, and then Jemima, Hilda, and Albert came in 1911.

The ones who have disappeared before the 1911 Canadian are (using freebmd)
Lilian = Lilian Elizabeth M, b. 1883  May have married 1909, to Joseph William Buckley (birth Eric J. Buckley, Dover, 1920, mmn Drake)
Mabel = Mabel Edith M, b. 1880 May have married 1906 to William Byrne (birth Leonard S Byrne b. 1913 Dover, mmn Drake)
Alice = Alice Maud(e) b. 1876 may have married 1896 to John Baxter or Herbert Edward Virgo
William Henry S. b. 1888 - may have married Winifred E Lewis in 1915 in Cheltenham - several possible children b. in Dover and elsewhere.
Charles Ernest b. 1879 m. 1906 to Beatrice Maude Hall or Kate Doble


freebmd also shows Stephen Butcher Drake m. Jemima Mercy Neeves, 1875, and Jemima's birth in 1852.

Those who went to Canada you should be able to see on ship lists at :
http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

[suzard]

1861
(transcrobed "Deeke")
Custom House Quay
Pavillion ??
John T Drake head M 45 mariner Chatham kent
Elisabeth wife 39 Folkstone
Mary Majer S daughter U 18 Dover
John T son 16 Dover
Stephen B son 12 Dover
Elisabeth J E (transcribed as Charlotte)daughter 8  Dover
Thomas Robinson Visitor U 28 Oldham lancs
RG9 349 7 8

This is possibly daughter mary's birth reg
Mary Major Susannah Drake
mar qtr 1843 Dover
5 129

I think this is a possiblity for John's marriage

DEc qtr 1838
Dover
on same page
John Thomas Drake
Elizabeth major Rayner
5 194

IGI (extracted)
marriage
Elizabeth major Rayner
John Thomas Drake
1 Nov 1838 St mary the Virgin Dover kent

so in 1851 possibly mary Wood (maried to William) was the mother of either elizabeth or John -and had remarried to William??

There is also this Christening
IGI (extracted)
22 July 1818 Flokstone Kent
Elizabeth major rayner
parents Chas/My


Suz

[fairlane]

Just to bring in the 1871   RG10/1010/8/9  Custom House Quay, Pavillion Inn

J T Drake  mar  50  lic vict. b. Chatham
E  Drake  wife 45 b. Folkestone
E J E Drake dau 18 b. Dover
S E M Robinson dau 6 b. Dover
John Drake son unm 25 Mariner
Thomas E..y  apprentice 17 mariner b. Canterbury
Sarah Marsh serv 16 gen. servant domestic b. Folkestone
John Marsh 18 apprentice  mariner

E J E Drake is Elizabeth Jane Emily Drake  1852 Dec qtr - Dover 2a 618
S E M Robinson is Sarah Elizabeth Major Robinson b. 1865 Mar qtr - registered Dover 2a 825. Could she be a granddaughter rather than daughter?

I think this ties in nicely with the marriage of John Thomas Drake and Elizabeth Major Rayner.

Fairlane

[suzard]

Well done fairlane.

Wonder if Thomas Robinson (visitor in 1861) is Sarah Elizabeth major Robinson's father?

Suz