Cranfield Parish Registers Lookup Please

[liz-bris]

I have 4g grandmother whose birth does not seem to be on the IGI, so I'd appreciate it if you could check the parish register in case the LDS missed it. 

Elizabeth Burrows born Cranfield about 1785 (1851 census IN Newport Pagnal has her age 67)   There is 1774 birth on IGI but that can't be her but may be a relation I feel

Thanks

Liz

[cathymcc]

Liz

Why can't it be her?   

She may have shaved some years off her age - one of mine lost 10 years from his age  every time he married

I am not sure the PR will have more than you already know.  The IGI miss nothing as far as their records go [but they don't record the notes entered by vicars - such as ''pauper'' and so on]

Please do try the Beds online archives search site and also www.rootsweb.com [family tree] & see if others have researched your branch

cath

[bedfordshire boy]

I agree with Cathy! OK, it's 10 years earlier than her census ages but she wouldn't have been the first lady to have lied about her age (or gentleman either!). But if John was allegedly the same age as Elizabeth and he was 20 when they married is he likely to have married a 30 year old? Perhaps that's why she would have lied about her age.

What additional information does the marriage entry provide? Age - unlikely but you might be lucky, witnesses, parish of residence etc?

There were only two Burrows families reproducing at this time in Cranfield, John and Sarah, the parents of the Elizabeth you have discounted, who in addition to Elizabeth only baptised Robert in 1776 (a Sarah Burrows was buried at Cranfield on 2 Aug 1780); and James and Hesther (Bacchus) who married in Cranfield on 27 Oct 1784 but whose first baptism wasn't until 1789, so there's plenty of time for an earlier child. But why wouldn't they have baptised her, yet baptised later children?

There are three burials in Cranfield of an Elizabeth Burrows - 16 March 1793; 22 Sep 1798; and 13 Jan 1824 age 28, the first two of which need checking to see if there is any additional information eg dau of John

This particular batch on the IGI was taken from the transcript, which checked the PR against the BT

David

[liz-bris]

Thanks for all that extra information and good ideas!

The reason that I ruled out her birth in 1774, was that my gx3 grandfather James Faulkner was born in 1824 which makes her 55 when he was born??

Thats why I hoped the LDS may have missed a birth.  Wishful thinking! 

I looked at all the Burrows families on the IGI, still trying to work out the structure?

Good ideab about the deaths. The deaths may prove more as if there is a death for the 1774 Elizabeth that may rule her out? Simplify things.

Just have to keep looking and hope that I find a clue somehere that I've missed.

But thanks for the help!   

[bedfordshire boy]

I agree that if she had a son in 1824 then that would rule out the 1774 Elizabeth

[liz-bris]

Glad you agree.  I thought it seemed an unlikely age for another child.

The deaths mentioned- where is that info from and does it say the age of the person who died? 

If either of the Elizabeth Burrows who died were the one born 1774 the age could tell us?

On the IGI there is a marriage between John Burrows and Elizabeth Parratt in 1784 in Cranfield but it is a LDS member not a parish register entry.  But its interesting.  Don't know how to use info.  Have checked for substantiation but does not seem to be there

[bedfordshire boy]

No age was given for either burial. It's a case of checking the PR, or the transcript, to see if there's anything extra, like wife of John, labourer, or daughter of John, which might assist in identifying which Elizabeth it was. It wasn't usual for age at burial to be shown until 1812.

If an LDS member submits an entry that is identical to an extracted entry on the IGI, then the extracted entry is deleted. The only way to substantiate the entry is to check the parish register, or the transcript.

David

[liz-bris]

So now I think it might be the next step to get access to the original record and see if the marriage of Elizabeth Parratt is on the actual parish register.  And it may also help me to find any other information on all of the family members I need to find more about.

Thanks for all your help.  Its good to get ideas of where to go when you really don't know if there is anywhere else to look. 

[johnP-bedford]

Hello Liz, From the Cranfield PR,

12 Apr 1784 Marriage of John Burroughs, day labr, widower  to  Elizabeth Parratt, widow.

Follows the burial on 2 Aug 1780 of Sarah  wife of John Burrows, pauper

Other burials you were interested in

16 Mar 1793  Eliz wife of John Burrows, labr, pauper
22 Sep 1798  Eliz Burrows, spinster

regards John