1841/ 1851 Census ANN HELLIER, Horsington Somerset

[CassT]

Could anybody help locate Ann HILLIER on the 1841 and or 1851 Census.

I have found on the her burial on the NBI

Burial  13 July 1851 Ann HILLIER age 78  St John the Baptist , Horsington Somerset

I think she was a widow,

The problem is that the spelling of the surname alters, it may be HILLIER, HELLYAR, HILLIAR, HELLYAR, HELLIAR

Her death seems to be recorded under HILLIAR Ann Sept 1851 Wincanton

Any information will be appreciated

Cass

[patrish]

This might be her  although the age is out a bit 

1851 HO107/1561/106/2   5 Grange Terrace, Bermonsdey


Joseph Hillier h. wid. 34 Tanner b Somerset Frome
Ann wid 72 Cloth Maker b Somerset Frome
Sarah dau 9 b Bermondsey
Isaac son 6
Anne dau 4   

Forget this, it cannot be her if she is buried in Somerset, sorry.      

[patrish]

Think this is the right one.

1851 HO107/1931/323/17  Horsington

Ann Hillier wid. 79 Pauper b Blackford, Somerset
John son un 46         "       b Horsington

also on the same page

Thomas Hillier h.m. 50 Gardener or Butcher b Horsington
Caroline wife 62
Elizabeth Moger dau un 24  b Horsington
William Moger visitor 4                 "     
 

[krisesjoint]

Hi Cass,

In the 1841 Census we have 3 John's all aged 30:- one South Cheriton Horsington, wife Elizabeth 30 and Family. He is a labourer, John no 2 at Horsington, wife Anna 30 and Family, He is an ag lab

and this one: (NOTE: Ann and Nanny are interchangeable names)


HO107/945/8 Folio 19 Page 7
Horsington

HILLIAR Nanny 70 Y
HILLIAR John 30 Y
HILLIAR Betsy 15 Y     

also another Nanny Husband Thomas

HO107/945/8 Folio18 Page 4 
Horsington

HELLIAR Thomas 80 Y Ag Lab
HELLIAR Nanny 75 Y

2 doors away we have

HELLIAR George 45 Y Ag Lab
HELLIAR Rhoda 35 Y
HELLIAR Samuel 3 Months Y

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

in 1851 we also have

HO107/1931 Folio 331 Page 5
South Cheriton Barberry
Horsington

ROD William Head 38 Widow b Horsington
ROD William Son 16 b Horsington Ag Lab
ROD John Son 14 b Horsington Ag Lab
ROD Robert Son 12 b Horsington Ag Lab
ROD Charles Son 9 b Horsington Ag Lab
ROD Jane Dau 5 b Horsington
HILLIAR Ann Mother in Law 81 Widow b Horsington

I also note the John posted by Patrish is widowed not married

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Now re these Johns 

From 1841 we had

John 30, Eliz, 30, James 11, Jane 8, George 6, Harriet 4, Luke 10 Months (He is in Pawlett in 1851 aged 42, Horsington agriculturer, Wife Elizabeth, son Luke at home)

John 30, Anna 30, John 12, Mary 10, William 8 Amelia 6, James 4, Jane 2 ......mmm 1851 there is a family in Horsington all b Horsington - John 45 Farm Carter, Patience 46, William 16, James 10, Jane 9, Robert 8, Job 6, Mary MYALL visitor 4 (Wincanton)

Here is the Rod family in 1841

HO107/945/8 Folio Page 7
South Cheritan
Horsington

ROD William 25 Y Labourer
ROD Anne 35 Y
ROD William 6 Y
ROD John 3 Y
ROD Robert 1 Y

a few houses away is

HILLIAR Jane 50 Y
Elizabeth 15 Y
Thomas 14 Y
Jane Thomas 1 Y (Thomas is perhaps surnane  Jane Hilliar is written then below it just Elizabeth, Thomas, Jane Thomas so it is hard to be sure as for this family the enumerator has not used ditto, where he has with the rest of page)


Cheers Kris 

[CassT]

I wish to thank you all for your terrific information,

Ann's husband christian name was Thomas but I thought that he died  in 1827. I have found a THOMAS HELLIAR aged 62  on the NBI also buried at St John the Baptist, Horsington on 4 Jan 1827

Maybe I will purchase the death cert for the Ann HILLIAR Sept 1851 Wincanton, it may give me a clue to work out which  Ann or Nanny is mine...

Thanks again

Cass
on a hot humid day in Sydney , Australia