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OVERSTALL family
« on: Saturday 12 January 08 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Kia Ora
Just recording that I am interested in making contact with any member of the OVERSTALL family who may be able to help me with information about the life & family of Marguerite Fairy Webb born 19 July 1905 West Bromwich and who died in the Registration District of Newton Abbot April 1987.

Marguerite seems to have married Mr Overstall at some time and moved to Devon.

At this stage I have no further information as I only learned of this connection overnight!

Grateful for any information!

Regards
Marlene
New Zealand

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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 January 08 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Marlene

I see on free BMD these birth registrations:

Clarence Fairy Webb .. June q 1898, west Bromwich
John Fairy Webb ... mar q 1902
Marguerite Fairy Webb ...Sept q 1905 , vol 6b p 830

will look for Clarence Fairy webb in 1901 , hopefully we will find his parents ...

deb  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 January 08 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

this may be them in 1901

Handsworth Staffs
Roland Rd
Harry Elisha F Webb head mar 38 Scale maker , weigh , b warwick
Jennie wife 33 b warwick
Harry E F  son 10
Dais Fairy dau 8 ......fairy transcribed as Fany
Philip Fairy son 8
Clarence Fairy son 2 b Staffordshire, Handsworth
Ida  fairy dau 4 months   "

will look for more

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 January 08 15:34 GMT (UK) »
Birth registrations for Marguerite Fairy Webb's siblings:

Harry Elisha F Webb - mar q 1891 Aston warwickshire
Daisy Fairy Webb - sept q 1892 Aston
Philip Fairy Webb - Dec q 1894 Aston
Ida Violet f webb - dec q 1900 aston

will find them in previous censuses to see if there are more children and hopefully find the marriage of harry Elisha F Webb  to a Jennie.

deb  :)

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 January 08 15:49 GMT (UK) »
1891

Aston Warwickshire
191 Wilton st
Henry Webb head mar 28 weighing machine maker b Birmingham
Jane Webb wife mar 23 b Aston
Harry E Webb son 2m b Aston

This may be a possible marriage :
Harry Webb
same page : Jane Homer
1886, dec q
West Bromwich

deb

PS  I think obtaining Marguerite's birth cert would be a good idea , just so as we can confirm her parent's names. :)

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 January 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
hi again

I have been trying to figure out were the 'Fairy' part of the name comes from ...No luck as yet ...


Henry/Harry Webb b 1863, father of Marguerite ( we hope  ;D)....this is his family;

1871:
birmingham
129 Soho(??) Rd
John Webb head mar 40 weigh machine maker b B'ham  (IGI b 15 jan 1831, chr; 15 feb 1831 s/o Edward webb & Maria)
Sarah wife mar 35 b B'ham
HARRY son 8 b Birmingham...he seems to have followed his dad's occupation!

1861:
John Webb head mar 30 weighing machine maker
Sarah Wife 25
Elizabeth Tuffley w. mother wid 65 , b Middlesex, London

marriage:
John Webb = Sarah Tuffley
june q 1856

so no connection to the Fairy name there  :-\

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 January 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »
One to consider? maybe poss. red herring.....could have been illegit...or got fed up with name and put Henry/Harry Webb around it????  As suggested Birth cert needed to confirm

Births Mar 1863   FAIRY  Elisha     Birmingham  6d 82


Marriages Dec 1889   
 
Fairy  Elisha    Aston  6d 568   
FLETCHER  Jane     Aston  6d 568

Cas

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Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 January 08 16:56 GMT (UK) »
hi Marlene ...

This is interesting ... and obviously needs to be verified that we have correct parents for Marguerite......

we have Marguerite Fairy Webb (1905) d/o Henry/Harry Elisha F Webb (b 1863, B'ham) s/o John Webb (1831 ) B'ham s/o Edward and Maria Webb.


It seems according to IGI that Edward and Maria had quite a few children born in B'ham.

but then I found this in 1841
Newton Abbot, Devon...Added this is where Marguerite ends up after marrying Mr . Overstall !!
Strand, Royal Hotel
Edward Webb 31 Hotel Keeper
Maria Webb 31 Y
Robert Webb 1 Y

I wonder if these are John's parents....ummm maybe I have the wrong people  :-\

deb  

Hi Cas  ;D... have just seen your post ...will read
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: OVERSTALL family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 January 08 17:14 GMT (UK) »
errr yes I had the wrong edward and maria in 1841 , I think

1851
B'ham, upper Brierley st, court 17
Edward webb head mar 53 thimble maker
Maria wife 53
Elizabeth dau 22 unm
John W son unm 20
Hannah E dau unm 17
Elizabeth Mason mother wid 78
all born B'ham

deb

I have seen a marriage on IGI of Edward Webb = Maria MASOn
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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