Just a bit more should floppydavis come back. The family appear on 1881 census with father Frederick 50. mother Emily 40(born Deal) Charles A age 1 and twins Harry/Frank, also a step daughter Ellen Bates aged 15. Frederick Warner married Emily Winifred Bates 17.4.1879 St Stephen City of London. Frederick widower,occ was a pilot, father Charles Warner occ pilot. Edith's-widow- father was James Fitch-grocer. By 1891 Emily is with 2 other EdithM aged 7 and Albert 6 and is a widow again. Strong chance that Harry and Frank are the 2 recorded in the orfanage.
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