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Looking for Charles Montrose
« on: Monday 21 January 08 06:14 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find out information on Charles Otho Montrose born abt 1872 Auckland, NZ according to NSW Death cert. Also information on Father :- Charles Otho Montrose and Mother:- Matilda Danks.

any info would be appreciated

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Re: Looking for Charles Montrose
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 January 08 07:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Geejay,

If you look at The NZ Archives website www.archway.archives.govt.nz
a search under Charles Montrose comes up with a divorce record for him and Matilda, 1881.

Also look at :
     
        http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

You can search the site by name and it comes up with a few hits for Charles Montrose including a rather amusing account of a court case where Charles O. Montrose was charged with using abusive language... Waikato Times 26 March 1881.

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Re: Looking for Charles Montrose
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 January 08 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi

From the NZSG Marriages index CD, his parents marriage...

Year   1868
Folio   0107
Surname   MONTROSE
Given Names   Charles O
Sex   M
Spouse   DANKS
Comment   O = Otto (ITM)
Year   1868
Folio   0107
Surname   DANKS
Given Names   Matilda
Sex   F
Spouse   MONTROSE
   

ITM stands for Intention to Marry - this register is held in Wellington and gives the number of years the bride and groom have been in the parish.

Trying to find out information on Charles Otho Montrose born abt 1872 Auckland, NZ according to NSW Death cert. Also information on Father :- Charles Otho Montrose and Mother:- Matilda Danks.

Not sure which Charles married in 1896 but here is the folio ref you can use to buy the cert (order the electronic printout it is cheaper and can contain more info)

Year   1896
Folio   2910
Surname   MONTROSE
Given Names   Charles Otho
Sex   M
Spouse   KEMPERMAN
Year   1896
Folio   2910
Surname   KEMPERMAN
Given Names   Frances Irene
Sex   F
Spouse   MONTROSE
   
Good luck
Michelle
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DOUGLASS, ROSE, KING, MARKS, UTHER, JONES, McWILLIAMS, SIMPSON, CROSS, MORRIS, HOBBS, ESLIN, SPEAR, ROBINSON, FLOOD, JOHNSON, DAVISON, WATTS

New Zealand:
McCABE, WILLIAMS, BURNS, WACKROW, HAMBLYN, PEAT, COOK, WELCH (Dr Robert Porter) , MABERLY, FERRICK, GALLON, TUNNICLIFFE

UK: UTHER, LEE, DAY, SOUNDY, HATFULL, CHARLESTROM, MATTHEWS (Ldn) PATIENT/ PASHION, DAY, SAVEALL, PAGE, MATHEWS, POULTON, THORINGTON, BRAND, HYMAS, (Ess)

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Re: Looking for Charles Montrose
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 01:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi To patientgenie and Kea, I would firstly like to thank both of you for the info you sent. Helped me greatly in trying to piece together  the Charles Otho Montrose strain, as there are three C.O. Montoses that I know of. Can you assist me further regarding the following.
1. Children of Charles and Matilda.(on their son Charles death cert mentions a Brother in Law John Hill so he possibly married a sister to Charles.

2. Death of Charles Otho Montrose snr in New Zealand. I believe he was the one to marry Frances Irene Kemperman in 1896 as his son married my G Grandfather's Sister Gertrude Lucretia Dredge in 1892 and remained until his death in 1937.

thanks again for your assistance

geejay


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Re: Looking for Charles Montrose
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 06:13 GMT (UK) »
Siblings of Charles O MONTROSE....

Lucky for you is seems that the family came to Sydney - possibly along with Matilda nee DANKS.

If you check the death indexes for NSW you can see many child of Charles O.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

You can by transcriptions of NSW certificates (all the same info - sometimes more for about 1/2 the price of a certified copy) - I use

www.transcriptions.com.au

I also wonder if this is Matilda's death cert - worth ordering to check as NSW one give names and ages of living children - if the informant knew this info.

 125/1932      CLAUSON      MATILDA      FREDERICK W      ANN      SYDNEY

I suspect the brother in law might be connected to Charles's wife as - I cant find a marriage of a HILL and MONTROSE in either NZ nor NSW. But maybe you will have more luck

All the best
Michelle



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New Zealand:
McCABE, WILLIAMS, BURNS, WACKROW, HAMBLYN, PEAT, COOK, WELCH (Dr Robert Porter) , MABERLY, FERRICK, GALLON, TUNNICLIFFE

UK: UTHER, LEE, DAY, SOUNDY, HATFULL, CHARLESTROM, MATTHEWS (Ldn) PATIENT/ PASHION, DAY, SAVEALL, PAGE, MATHEWS, POULTON, THORINGTON, BRAND, HYMAS, (Ess)

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Re: Looking for Charles Montrose
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 06:24 GMT (UK) »
Oh Just did a search on the NSW BDM site for death of surname * and father charles otto and found these two...

23063/1945      YATES      VICTORIA HOBSON      CHARLES OTTO      MATILDA      BALMAIN

17283/1948    HILL    ALICE MATILDA DANKS    CHARLES OTTO    MATILDA    DRUMMOYNE

when spelt Otho

20450/1961      MARTIN      MABEL ANNIE M      CHARLES OTHO      GERTRUDE LUCRETIA      PENRITH

Hope this helps piece the tree together for you. When you get past the index cut off dates, it is worth checking the Ryerson Index, a volunteer project indexing death and funeral notices.

Also worth checking the National Archives of Australia for people who served in the wars - often give info you cant find elsewhere...

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx

Just press search now.

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Australia, NSW: Sydney, Hawkesbury, Kiama, Bega, Northern Rivers.
DOUGLASS, ROSE, KING, MARKS, UTHER, JONES, McWILLIAMS, SIMPSON, CROSS, MORRIS, HOBBS, ESLIN, SPEAR, ROBINSON, FLOOD, JOHNSON, DAVISON, WATTS

New Zealand:
McCABE, WILLIAMS, BURNS, WACKROW, HAMBLYN, PEAT, COOK, WELCH (Dr Robert Porter) , MABERLY, FERRICK, GALLON, TUNNICLIFFE

UK: UTHER, LEE, DAY, SOUNDY, HATFULL, CHARLESTROM, MATTHEWS (Ldn) PATIENT/ PASHION, DAY, SAVEALL, PAGE, MATHEWS, POULTON, THORINGTON, BRAND, HYMAS, (Ess)