many thanks for the information you have all found.I didn't know Edmund's siblings,so it's interesting to see who they were.I have a second cousin whose grand dad was my gran's brother and we share any info,we both have trees on Ancestry.He has all Edmund's siblings on his tree,which gradually I'm putting on my tree.
I recently found a record of Edmund being declared bankrupt in 1867,it seems he had a shop,at that time he was living in Few Town.My thoughts on that are,possibly,the shop was run by his wife as he was a cartier,I'm only guessing.
I have the feeling he was a bit of a rogue! Stealing grape vines in Yorkshire !seems really strange,I'm not implying that he didn't do it,but even today I don't know of anyone having grapevines in Yorkshire.People grow them in the south,I wonder what he planned to do with them!
It's interesting that he stole from a Bernard Shaw as Shaw was his wife's maiden name.
I didn't know what Edmund's father,Timothy did because he died before the census started.Timothy was born in Birstal in 1789,he married Hannah Booth the 11th of July 1811,he died in1840 in Rochdale,what was he doing there? I think his wife Hanna died in 1860,I don't know where. Maybe Bradford?
The theory that the family had a family plot is interesting,going back beyond Timothy,his father was John born1766 in Birstall.
You have given me places to look,which I will do,I'm also going to get a copy of his death certificate to see where he was living when he died and what he died of.
Agian many thanks for info,I will get back if I find anything of interest.