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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #18 on: Friday 15 February 08 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Margaret, then based on the following:
Marriages Dec 1882   (>99%)
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GARDNER  Annie    St.Geo.H.sq.  1a 797   
Haggis  James     St. Geo. H. Sq.  1a 797   
Lock  Annie     St. Geo. H. Sq.  1a 797   
Truman  James     St. Geo. H. Sq.  1a 797

Could you find in 1891 these two men, James Haggis and James Truman to see if Annie (ex Lock) was born in Limpsfield.
Chambers of Newmarket/E. Camb.s, Wrenn, Elphick & Culpep(p)er of E. Suss., Buxton of Essex, Tucker of Appledore, Dobbs of Bideford, Morgan of Laugharne, Cordell of Hertfordshire, Gooch & Rix & Tuthill & maybe de Bohun of S. Norfolk etc ;-) Small, Acome, Johnson Bavin, Catlin, Sansom, Pitkin of W. Herts/Bucks, Churchman of Ned. then Hamps/Berks, Gayler of Shoreditch, Barnes of Chertsey/Staines, Goldsmith of Westm/Sussex, Lock of Limpsfield, Found & Gowman of Morwenstow

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #19 on: Friday 15 February 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Now this looks hopeful!

3 Cork? Place, Gladstone Terrace, Battersea
James Haggis Head Mar 45 Painter b London St James
Ann Wife Mar 44 b London Westminster
Ellen Lock Dau Single 21 b London Westminster

Ref is RG12 426 f 107

I will check the Truman name.

Barbara

Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #20 on: Friday 15 February 08 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear - I don't think this is right as I can See James Haggis on the 1881 census in the household of Alfred Lock who has a daughter Annie!

Barbara
Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #21 on: Friday 15 February 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Then this is the next most likely marriage, I would be grateful if you could find out if this Ann was the one in question:
Marriages Jun 1884
Harrison  Arthur    St. Saviour  1d 242   
LOCK  Ann     St Saviour  1d 242   
Record  John     St Saviour  1d 242   
STROUD  Julia     St.Saviour  1d 242
Chambers of Newmarket/E. Camb.s, Wrenn, Elphick & Culpep(p)er of E. Suss., Buxton of Essex, Tucker of Appledore, Dobbs of Bideford, Morgan of Laugharne, Cordell of Hertfordshire, Gooch & Rix & Tuthill & maybe de Bohun of S. Norfolk etc ;-) Small, Acome, Johnson Bavin, Catlin, Sansom, Pitkin of W. Herts/Bucks, Churchman of Ned. then Hamps/Berks, Gayler of Shoreditch, Barnes of Chertsey/Staines, Goldsmith of Westm/Sussex, Lock of Limpsfield, Found & Gowman of Morwenstow


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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #22 on: Friday 15 February 08 19:01 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though John Record married Julia.
Arthur Harrison and wife Ann (living in St Saviour and therefore most likely the couple who married there) are 29 and 33 respectively. both born London City.
There are 2 other couples in London with the same names but neither fits in with your Ann.

Barbara

Do you know what happened to Ann's child?  Any chance that Ann might be with/near him/her?
Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 16 February 08 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Ann Lock her daughter lived in Sunbury, Middlesex in 1891 (she was married in Lambeth).
Chambers of Newmarket/E. Camb.s, Wrenn, Elphick & Culpep(p)er of E. Suss., Buxton of Essex, Tucker of Appledore, Dobbs of Bideford, Morgan of Laugharne, Cordell of Hertfordshire, Gooch & Rix & Tuthill & maybe de Bohun of S. Norfolk etc ;-) Small, Acome, Johnson Bavin, Catlin, Sansom, Pitkin of W. Herts/Bucks, Churchman of Ned. then Hamps/Berks, Gayler of Shoreditch, Barnes of Chertsey/Staines, Goldsmith of Westm/Sussex, Lock of Limpsfield, Found & Gowman of Morwenstow

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 February 08 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Free BMD has a couple of deaths in the London area that might fit your Ann - although that does not explain why we cannot find her on the censuses.  On the other hand if she continued as a ladies maid she might have gone abroad with her employer.

If she was in an institution in 1891 she would probably be shown with just her initials.  There is a female A L aged 47  in Wandsworth asylum in 1891.  She is a needllewoman (which does not really fit) and there is no place of birth given. She is recorded as a Lunatic and blind.

Barbara
Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #25 on: Monday 18 February 08 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barbara,

I have not seen a record of her being blind, but perhaps she changed her name after having the child illegitimately - who was Frances Drummond living with in 1861?
Chambers of Newmarket/E. Camb.s, Wrenn, Elphick & Culpep(p)er of E. Suss., Buxton of Essex, Tucker of Appledore, Dobbs of Bideford, Morgan of Laugharne, Cordell of Hertfordshire, Gooch & Rix & Tuthill & maybe de Bohun of S. Norfolk etc ;-) Small, Acome, Johnson Bavin, Catlin, Sansom, Pitkin of W. Herts/Bucks, Churchman of Ned. then Hamps/Berks, Gayler of Shoreditch, Barnes of Chertsey/Staines, Goldsmith of Westm/Sussex, Lock of Limpsfield, Found & Gowman of Morwenstow

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Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« Reply #26 on: Monday 18 February 08 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chris

Frances was at Strathallan Castle with her parents and siblings plus servants in 1861.  She was 12.

Barbara

Do you have the birth certificate for Ann Lock b 1867?  Just wondering whether that would give us some clues.  It is odd that we cannot find Ann senior except in 1881.
Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk