Alice Harpell - Penarth, Glamorgan - COMPLETED

[tilly56]

Help Please!

I have had a few threads going to help me build a surprise family tree for an elderly aunt. It is nearly finished - but I am stuck on Alice Harpell, who is one of her grandmothers.

I know that :

She was born in Penarth, Glamorgan in 1869 (I have this from the 1891 English census - Class: RG12; Piece: 2032; Folio 64; Page 17; )

I also have her in the 1891 Welsh census - Class: RG13; Piece: 4936; Folio: 116; Page: 30. - staying with her husband's uncle, William Jordan, in Abertillery.

She married Alfred Jordan in Swansea in 1887.

......and that is all!

I would like to be able to add her parents to the tree - I have found an "Allias Harpell" (I don't think this name can be correct - I imagine it should be Alice....) in the 1881 Wales census, born in Penarth - Class: RG11; Piece: 5289; Folio: 34; Page: 64;  - living in 28 Plassey St - the father, Peter, is American. The mother's name is Elizabeth. - could this be her??

I cannot find her any earlier - I would be very grateful if someone could undo this knot for me - Is the Allias Harpell mentioned above "my" Alice............ if not, who are her parents - and where are they all before 1881.

Many thanks for any help

Tilly

[Tati]

Hi Tilly,

I agree she must be the Allias.

There's a marriage for Peter Harpell in Jun 1863 West Derby. It's indexed as 8b 752 on FreeBMD but I think the actual page is 732 - which unfortunately doesn't show an Elizabeth 

 

Checking the complete index there is an Elizabeth Pinnington indeed on the same page

[CaroleW]

There's nothing on either the Welsh or English 1871 census

[CaroleW]

per www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863

HARPELL Peter PINNINGTON Elizabeth Toxteth Park, St. John The Baptist Liverpool 2108TP/5/160

[Tati]

Snap Carole 

[Tati]

There's a Mary Ellen Harpell, "daughter of Peter Harpill" age 4 born Liverpool on the 1871 census for Penarth, visiting a Smith family. RG10/5368 24 41

[Tati]

Peter is at Huskisson Dock on Board the Wonder in 1871 RG10/3830 68 

[tilly56]

Hello Tati and Carole

Thank you SO much - you really are brilliant!!
Now I shall see if I can get back a bit further.

Thank you again for your help.

Tilly

[tilly56]

Hello Tati

I saw your correction! thanks again.

I'm busy filling in all the info on the tree at the moment!

I'd like to find out more about Peter's origins - should I start a new thread?

Tilly