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Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« on: Monday 25 February 08 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am trying to find information regarding my Gt-Gt Aunt, Clara Eliza Harris - who was born in Deal, Kent, England in 1887.

The only information that I have regarding Clara is that she apparently married a Harry Jones (unconfirmed) - and died in 1970 in Canada. I don't know if she married in England or Canada.

I don't know when she went to Canada, and the only other information that I have is that she had at least 4 children - 3 of their names being Verna Jones, Jack Jones and Albert Jones.

Before my grandmother died last year, I'm sure she told me that one of her aunt's went to live in America, and I'm not sure if it was Clara or not, so there is a possibility that she lived in the US first.

If anybody can help me with any information at all I would be most grateful.

Regards,

Darin, Newcastle, England.
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 05:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Darin, there is a death for Clara Elizabeth Jones in the online indexes for British Columbia.  Died in 1970, aged 83, in North Cowichan on Vancouver Island.  I can do a quick lookup and see if the other details match.

Can you post the parents names and her exact birth date so I have another check point to see if this is the right Clara?  Have you traced her in the English Census records?  Did her family remain in England?  Meaning, we should be looking for her travelling on her own or with the husband.  Do you have any idea of the date range of her emigration?
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you very much for that information.

Clara's father was William Edward Harris (1867-1932) and her mother was Clara Eliza Harris (formerly Erridge) (1868-1952).

All of her family stayed in England, and she was the only member to emigrate.

I have two photo's of the Harris family including Clara, one taken in about 1902 and one taken in about 1911.

Unless she came back to visit, this would suggest that she was still in England in 1911ish.

She is in the 1891 census, but unfortunately, the 1901 census for Deal, England is missing - and the 1911 census is not released until 1912.

I am unsure of her exact date of birth, but her birth was registered in the June qtr of 1887, so she could have been born between February and June 1887.

If you could help in any other was I would be very grateful,

Thank you,

Darin.
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 15:02 GMT (UK) »
There is an entry on the freeBMD with a Clara Harris to a surname Jones, but he is not named on the page... http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages June 1919  W. Bromwich vol. 6b  p. 2167view
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 15:36 GMT (UK) »
If that turns out to be the death for Clara...there is also a death for a Henry James Jones  in North Cowichan 1958 age 71 Microfilm #: B13236 (GSU # 2033177)  ...his birth date would be circa 1887 as well... J.J.

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Checked that middle name on ww1 signups...but none say Clara for a wife...
Oh, well, I guess the answers can't all just fall into our laps... ;D ...I was a little displeased at 2 of the fellows who said their wives names were "Mrs. Henry James Jones"...Uh, thanks.... :P
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your efforts.

Could you please inform me what is the best way for me to order the death certificates for this Clara and Henry, just in case they are the correct family?

Thanks in advance,

Darin.
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Darin - if they are the right couple, I can print them off at the library for you so no need to order the full certificates from BC Archives.  I'll be stopping by the library after work so I should have a transcription for you by tonight (or very early morning for you). 

Fingers crossed it is the right pair of Jones!
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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Thank you so much for your help, you are so kind.

Kindest Regards,

Darin.
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Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: Clara Eliza Jones - formerly Harris (died Canada 1970)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 06:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Darin - all those crossed fingers paid off.

Clara Elizabeth Jones died at Cowichan District Hospital on 7 July 1970.  She was a widow, husband was Henry James Jones; she was born on 2 April 1887 in Deal, Kent, father was William Harris born Ireland, mother was unknown.  She lived in Cowichan for 21 yrs prior to her death, in the province of BC for 21 yrs and in Canada for 65yrs.  The informant was her son, Albert H Jones, of Duncan. Clara was buried at Mountain View Cemetery in North Cowichan on 9 July 1970.  She died of a "very severe cerebral hemorrhage" that occurred on 27 June 1970.

Henry James Jones died at Auchinache Road in Duncan on 7 March 1958.  He was married, wife listed as Clara Eliza Harris.  He was born in London on 4 February 1886.  He lived in Cowichan for 8yrs prior to his death, in BC for 8yrs and in Canada for 59yrs.  He was a farmer and last worked in this occupation in 1958.  His father was William Jones born England and mother was Louisa Dodson also born England.  The informant was his son Albert H. Jones of Duncan, BC.  Henry was also buried at Mtn View Cemetery, on 11 March 1958.  He died of a coronary thrombosis.

I couldn't find a death record for their son, Albert, but the indexes only go up to 1987.  The residency years are never exact but at least they narrow it down - according to the death registration, Clara emigrated about 1905 and Henry about 1899.  Based on your photo, I am not sure if Clara's date is correct here.  If Harry's date is correct, they must have married in Canada as Clara would only have been 12 yrs old.  They should also be in the 1911 Census - you can search the 1901 and 1911 Census records at www.automatedgenealogy.com.  I didn't have time to do a search tonight but hopefully you can find Henry.

There is also a Border Crossing record from Manitoba on Ancestry.ca for a Henry J Jones.  Can anyone with a subscription do a quick lookup and see if this is our man?
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