1861/71 Census look up please

[Noreen Rose]

Wozzle

I would have found them in the end!  Thank you for these, I have ordered the Marriage Certificate for Sarah ASHCROFT/Andrew WALLACE in 1882 and the birth of Richard WALLACE born 1876.

Thank you very much for your kindness and help yet again!

Noreen

[Noreen Rose]

Wozzle

I wonder what you think of this which I found when Googling for ASHCROFT!!

"I am researching DRIVER'S & ASHCROFT'S of Birkenhead. Andrew ASHCROFT married Sarah DRIVER 1857 Birkenhead Andrew ASHCROFT married Mary HARDMAN ( nee DODD) 1873 claiming to be a widower but his first wife was still alive living with Andrew WALLACE in Hull Andrew ASHCROFT & Sarah DRIVER had a daughter Sarah born 1864 who was my grandmother and their other children were Mary Ellen who married Robert Dean Williams of Liverpool and they emigrated to Ontario" 

The marriage certificate hasn't arrived yet of Sarah DRIVER/ASHCROFT from Hull registrars.   I have emailed the lady, but it was sent to the list in 2004.

Noreen

[wozzle]

if you look at one of my previous answers to this topic
i said that the only andrew ashcroft i could find in 1851 was in bolton and he was a coalman
in 1881 there is a andrew ashcroft age 49 living in bolton occ. coal miner with wife mary
but his oldest child is john age 26. born in little lever,bolton
could this be the one that this lady was talking about and got muddled up.
really i have'nt a clue it all seems very strange
let us know what the cert says if you don't mind

[Noreen Rose]

The email to the person in Canada bounced!  I had to wait until early afternoon for my post to arrive!  Andrew WALLACE and Sarah ASHCROFT Married after Banns, her father William DRIVER Deceased, Architect  His father Richard Wallace Deceased, Blacksmith.  Thomas DEARDEN and Matilda HUMPHREYS (The mark of) were Witnesses, in the Parish Church of St Stephen Hull on 6 Feb 1882.

Before they married - Richard Andrew WALLACE Bn 13 Dec 1875, at 4 Leek Court, Mill Street was registered, by Sarah WALLACE formerly DRIVER.  Father was Andrew WALLACE Engine Fitter.

I have now requested the Death Certificate of Andrew ASHCROFT, Dec qtr 1878 to see who registered his death in Berkenhead and also ordered a Will found, for an Elizabeth ASHCROFT - Widow from Berkenhead in 1894.

There is a marriage of Andrew ASHCROFT to Mary HARDMAN in Dec qtr 1873 on Free BMD at Birkenhead!!  It looks like it might be true!

Noreen
York

[Melagbe]

Hi Noreen

Have you got Andrew Ashcroft in the 1871 census?

If he died 1879 he will be buried more than likely in St Mary's Churchyard, where he and Sarah got married. Or he is in Flaybrick Cemetery.
Let me know the date of death and I will look it up for you.

Mel

[Melagbe]

1871 Info

Theres a Sarah Ashcroft, married aged 30 a dressmaker, born Manchester living as a lodger at 43 William Street, Birkenhead, ref RG10/3745 folio 34 page 68. No other Ashcrofts living with her.

At
187 Beckwith Street, Birkenhead Ref RG10 3747 Folio 46 Page 6
Andrew Ashcroft Head 32 Blacksmith Manchester
Mary E Ashcroft Dau Unmarried 12 Scholar Born Birkenhead
Sarah Ashcroft Dau 6 Scholar, Birkenhead
Fanny Ashcroft Dau 3 Scholar Birkenhead

Hope this helps

Mel

[wozzle]

melagbe the 1871 census has already been posted on the first page of this thread

[Noreen Rose]

Mel

Thank you for this input!  The son I am researching Arthur was born in Manchester about 1871 and the other children were born in Birkenhead it looks like she left Andrew ASHCROFT to live in Hull with Andrew WALLACE about that time.   I noticed William DRIVER her father was from Keighley Yorkshire.  Wozzle very kindly has helped find the census's for me including the 1871.

Thank you for the kind offer to look up Andrew ASHCROFT's grave for me.

Noreen

[Melagbe]

Hi Noreen

I have checked today, St Mary's church and Flaybrick both C of E and N C and he is not buried there.
There is a Catholic section in Flaybrick. Otherwise its further a field.

My mistake about the 71 census. I didnt go back far enough

Mel