1841 and 1861 Census for WILLIAMS

[Les de B]

I currently have the 1851 Census for this family taken at Midgham, Berkshire;

Richard WILLIAMS  Head  M 78  Dealer General  Birth place unknown
Hannah WILLIAMS Wife    M 60                           Berkshire, Beenham
Arthur WILLIAMS    Son     U 28 Milwright            Berkshire, Beenham
(A)Dolphus WILLIAMS Son U 19 Ag Lab               Berkshire, Midgham
Stephen HAMBLING Visit    U  19 Ag Lab              Berkshire, Midgham

(Note: Adolphus probably grandson, being bastard son of head's daughter Louisa, not living with parents)

Going off the 1851 Census, can anybody help me with the 1841 Census and 1861 Census for this family? Confident that it will a Berkshire Census. I also realise by the ages of the parents, they may have not survived to the 1861 Census. Their names are too common to positively identify them on FreeBDM deaths.

Les

[Mum44]

Hello Les -

Not much luck in 1841 at present - the only one I could find was Adolphus, and he was in the Bradfield Union Workhouse, age 9 (Bradfield, Berks)

I'll have another look in a moment, based on what I found for 1861:

RG9 P. 905 Fol.52 Pg. 34
Cat Street, Bampton, Oxon
Richard Williams  Head  M  83  On parish Relief  B.  Oxon, Bampton
Hannah Williams  Wife  M  68    ~    ~        ~   B. Berkshire, Stanford

RG9  P. 856 Fol. 21 Pg. 36
Railway Pl., Chipping Wycombe, Bucks
Arthur Williams  Head  Wid  32  Millwright  B. Newbury, Berks
Sarah Chilton  Boarder  Wid  32  Needlewoman
Thomas Chilton  ~  11
Henry Chilton     ~   8
Sarah Chilton      ~   5
Fanny Chilton      ~   3
All the Chiltons were born Bucks, Wycombe

HMS Excellent, Portsmouth
A Williams  Royal Marine  S  26 B. Midgham, Newbury, Berks

I'll go back to 1841 now and see if i can find them in Oxfordshire!

Hope this is useful

[DebbieG]

The only Richard I can see in 1841 is in Midgham

Richard Williams 60 
Laura Williams 55 


I don't think the family of Richard & Hannah in Oxfordshire in 1861 is the correct one - from the burials for Midgham

1860 Sept 18th Richard William aged 84


Debbie

[Mum44]

Debbie - hi

You're probably right - that family of Richard and Hannah are there in Bampton in 1841 - all the wrong children, tho!

[Les de B]

Thanks for your help ladies - much appreciated. I think the main problem here is that the WILLIAMS name is fairly common, therefore hard to be 100% certain, though I'm happy with the 1841 Census for Adolphus WILLIAMS at the workhouse.

The 1860 death of Richard WILLIAMS is a possibility, but then again not 100% certain. Even the Arthur WILLIAMS in the 1861 Census is a bit "ify".  Unfortunately, I have nothing to say he was married, then widowed. Age is a bit out, but birth place seems okay.

Oh, the joys of having ancestors named WILLIAMS, SMITH, JONES...........................

Les

[Mum44]

Arthur's occupation in 1861 is Ok, too !