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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 March 08 20:47 GMT (UK) »
... the children born in Wales were listed in U.S. census as born in 'Cardiff, Ireland' ...
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That's interesting!
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they still considered themselves Irish.
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Yes, in my family they considered themselves to be Irish for a number of generations. Some still do!
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I researched Driscoll/O'Driscoll
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I think that my family were related to Driscolls by marriage.
Worcs / Glos: Neal Neale Jeynes Jeens Geans Harris Roper Ropier Colley Dyer Heeks Bayzand Hampton Bishop Cole Elton Littlehales McGowan
Glamorgam: Hampton Thornton Svombo Swambo Swanbo Keefe O Keefe Shanahan Shannon Doyle Maldoon Muldoon Davies Llewellyn Jones
Birmingham: Neale Sarjant Cole Hiley Berridge Tirebuck

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 March 08 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Brief outline of Driscolls I was researching:
James Driscoll (c1825 Ireland-?) m.(1867 Cardiff, Wales) Mary Keefe (c1829 Ireland-?). Known children:
1. Johanna/Anne O'Driscoll (1851 Cardiff-1933 N.Y.) m. Michael McCoy.
2. Timothy (c1854 Cardiff) m. Hester Brown.
3. Ellen/Nellie Driscoll (1859 Cardiff-1914 Connecticut) m. George Clifford.
4. Mary Driscoll (c1861 Cardiff).
5. Daniel J. Driscoll (1865 Cardiff-1945 Connecticut) m. Esther Martell.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 March 08 23:02 GMT (UK) »
There are Keefes/ O'keefes in my ancestry, but I only know some of them.

My gt grandmother was Julia Anne and she had sisters Mary & Katy and a brother Dennis. Dennis O'Keefe went to Philadelphia.
I think that Mary & Katy may have gone to America too.
One of them certainly did.
Worcs / Glos: Neal Neale Jeynes Jeens Geans Harris Roper Ropier Colley Dyer Heeks Bayzand Hampton Bishop Cole Elton Littlehales McGowan
Glamorgam: Hampton Thornton Svombo Swambo Swanbo Keefe O Keefe Shanahan Shannon Doyle Maldoon Muldoon Davies Llewellyn Jones
Birmingham: Neale Sarjant Cole Hiley Berridge Tirebuck

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 March 08 12:24 GMT (UK) »
thanks Tricia_2 that was great.  It gives a good insight to the various Irish in the area. 
Darney/Lyons (Cardiff, South Wales/ Cork, Ireland/France)
Shaw/Helme/Titterington (Lancashire, England)
Parry/Lewis (South Wales, UK)
Bell/Moore/Dawson/Collins (Scotland/Ireland)


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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 March 08 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Scrumhalf, I'm researching the Darney's in Cardiff who came from Ireland late 1850's from what I believe to be the Townland of Kilcolta in the Parish of Templebreedy in the county of Cork.  This information I've had from the Griffiths Valuation in Ireland 1848-1864.  If you sign up (free) to myirishancestry.com you can search for free.  There is also a memorial to the victims of the Great Famine in Ireland in Cathays Cemetery which I've visited. It felt quite strange to be next to a Celtic Cross which was erected to remember families of this event that included mine. 
Darney/Lyons (Cardiff, South Wales/ Cork, Ireland/France)
Shaw/Helme/Titterington (Lancashire, England)
Parry/Lewis (South Wales, UK)
Bell/Moore/Dawson/Collins (Scotland/Ireland)

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 22 June 08 23:51 BST (UK) »
this is great! been trying to sort out my Irish ancestors for ages and glad i found this!

i am from the sullivans in swansea~my great x 4 grandparents, both Irish, james and mary and their 8 children. one catherine married Irishman Patrick Flavin/Flahavan and they brought up their family of 6 in cardiff. their child margaret married another Irishman James Gaul and they brought up their family of 10 in swansea.
the children i have so far traced seems to have married into Welsh families and remained in Swansea/Cardiff.
occupations~miners, iron weighers etc
 if this rings any bells with anyone i would love to hear from you
Ireland/South Wales~Sullivan, Flahavan/Flavin, Gaul
Portsea~Hawkins, Duke, Fletcher, Chandler
Whiteparish/Downton, Wiltshire~Betteridge, Edsall,Lovedee
Quebec, County Durham~Williams, Wilson
Scotland/Northumberland~Rennie. Turnbull, Armstrong, Graham, Lillie, Chrissop

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #15 on: Monday 23 June 08 08:37 BST (UK) »
Since the thread has re-opened, I'll throw my lot in!

One branch of my family (Whitty), came from Wexford to South Wales - it looks like three brothers (out of six) came here. One (my gt gt grandfather) settled in Maesteg, one moved to Slough (found about two years ago via the Whitty Clan website), and one seems to have remained in Cardiff, although all contact has been lost with them - he appears to have had daughters as they attended my gt gt grandfather funeral in the 60's, but that's literally all I know!

So in answer to a previous query on this thread, families could easily have stopped in Wales before moving onto London.

Ps, if anyone comes across Whitty births or deaths registered in Cardiff prior to 1960 (and after 1912!), feel free to let me know - I've given up at this point with my Irish lot and am concentrating on the Welsh one's  ;)
census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Buckley - Maesteg, Tipperary
Lane - Waterford
Hughes - Hay/Hereford
Hobby - Byford
Evans - Neath/Cadoxton
Whitty - Wexford, South Wales
Connell - Ireland, and possibly Liverpool
White - Kinsale, Cork
Ahearn(?) - Glanmire, Cork
Millward - Merthyr, Maesteg

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 18 September 08 13:15 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone! I'm a beginner too.

I have Irish ancestors in Cardiff too (Darney and Lyons) . I think they might be the same as yours Pippylong.  :) 
 More and more Irish info is online now - have you seen The Irish History Foundation website? there isn't anything for South Cork yet though and I think that's what we need for Kilcolta/Templebreedy. As far as I can remember the records for Kilcolta would be covered in the Carrigaline area - but I can't find the right folder to check  ???
I really need help organising all my info, I'm constantly going over the same things and not getting anywhere.

Thanks very much for all those links Tricia. Very interesting.
Darney in Cork, later in Wales. Harry in Carmarthen. Lyons in Cardiff and Ireland (Cork?), Smith, Carpenter in Southampton (Dibden and Beaulieu). Brown, Barnes in Bransgore, Ringwood, Southampton. Bull in Boldre. Wort in Downton, Wiltshire. Shaw, Titterington in Lancaster. Wake, Ferguson in Sunderland.

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Re: Irish in Cardiff
« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 September 08 19:04 BST (UK) »
I've been researching my family name Ryan who you think would have come over directly from Ireland.  However, I discovered that they actually came to Cardiff by way of Limehouse in the East End of London.

We've got Driscolls, Mahoneys and Foleys in our lot.