help i'm stuck

[Laini]

Hi

Not sure whether anyone can help but here goes....

I have traced a part of my tree to Merionethshire

Lot Jones born Gwyddelwern about 1811. He married Dulce (Dulsy) R, (dont know what R stands for) born Cyffylliog about 1808. They later lived in Coedpoeth Denb. Found on 51 & 71 census. I also think i've found that Lot died in 1888 in Wrexham area. The places of birth differ on both census' Lot- Llywyn Gaer (could be incorrect spelling as copy is poor) Dulce R- Bettws. I thought they could be smaller hamlets near Gwyddelwern and Cyffylliog but I cant find anything relevant on the old maps.
I am trying to go further back and am wondering if it is possible to find the names of their parents somehow.

Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Gadget]

Hi Laini

Welcome to Rootschat

I have the records for Gwyddelwern but won't be back home until late Monday night. I'll look for them then if that's OK.

I think one of the other members (Hiraeth) might also have them and for Gyffylliog.

Gadget

[DMP]

Hi
In 1861 they are in Bersham
RG9 4284 f.38 page 42
Lot (Job on ancestyry) born Gwyddelwern, Merionethshire

Donna

[Laini]

Thanks gadget (didnt expect a reply so soon so next week will be great) and thanks Donna

No wonder I couldnt find them in 61c. Lot as Job & Dulce as Daley. How did you do it. I went to Ancestry (Ta!) and found it transcribed wrongly, but it all still fits. the children are the same. I did notice that Dulce still has her birthplace as Bettws though but on another c (51 or 71) it clearly says Cyffylliog.

My Nain's (great grandaughter of Lot) whole family had the nickname of 'The Lots' but nobody in the existing family can tell me why. Now its all starting to make sense. My Dad tells me that it was common to tag on a parents name to distinguish one John or Thomas from another and could be carried through generations. Thankfully the nickname stopped a generation or two ago.

[Gadget]

Laini ~

Were any of the descendants footballers - I know of a Lot Jones who my family are related to either by marriage or distant cousinship. He played for Wales.

Gadget 

[Laini]

I doubt it. They all seem to be miners but I dont suppose that rules it out. I had a hard enough time getting even the remembered names out of existing family. my dad didnt even know his grandparents names as he just referred to them as Nain Adwy & Nain pentre which was where they lived. There is an uncofirmed rumour that my Taid once played football for Wales but thats another branch. He married Lots great grandaughter.

Elaine

[Gadget]

Footballing and coal mining went together. Two of my lines were footballers and coal miners - who was your Taid?

Gadget 

[Laini]

My Taid was called Keith Glasspoole up until 1934 (born 1911) He was born in Shrewsbury while his mother Nellie was in service. She didnt turn up for her chores one morning and when someone checked on her they found that she'd given birth during the night. Nobody knew she was pregnant. Anyway..... He changed his name for 2 shillings in 1934 to Williams after his stepfather.

[Gadget]

I'llcheck him out in mybook when I get back 

Gadget