DIERDEN

[griphynne]

Looking for Dierdens in and around Haydock, particularly those connected with John Dierden, born 31 Jan 1843, married to Mary Goodwin. 

I would like to find John's parents, grandparents, etc. as well as Mary's family.  Possible that John's mother was Ann(e) Daniels, father's name might have been John or William? 

I have found that Dierden is sometimes spelled Dearden in the records of the parish church (St. James).  Any help would be most appreciated.

[AussieGenealogy]

Found this family in 1851 census

John Dierden        8    Haydock      Son       Scholar
William Dierden    37  Newton        Head    Coalminer
Ann Dierden         47 Winstanley    Wife
Elizabeth Dierden  5  Haydock        dau
William Dierden      4     #               Son
Jane Daniels         20 Pemberton    Dau      Employ.at Home


Haydock Lane
 HO107/2202  Folio 57  Page  69  Warrington Newton

[AussieGenealogy]

Marriage

William Dearden  to Ann Daniels  1840  Apr qtr
Prescott Lancs  Vol 20 Page 577

[griphynne]

Thank you very much, Annie, especially for the reference number for the marriage.  I will now be able to send for the certificate.   

[Iria]

Hi

Marriage from the Lancashire BMD Website :

DEARDEN   William    
DANIELS   Ann   
Prescot, St.Mary's   
Prescot   C5/1/163

Hope this helps in some way

Regards

Iria

[griphynne]

Obtained the marriage certificate for William Dierden (Dearden) and Ann Daniels -- just wanted to share new bits of information contained therein.  William's father was named Matthew (occ. collier) and Ann's father was James (says he was a farmer, but he isn't in the 1881 census -- I presume he was dead by that time -- but two other James Daniels appear in the Lancs. area who are both connected with the mines, so I wonder what happened to the farm). 

Anyway, thanks very much for the help.  Most appreciated.

[Sisterjane]

This looks like Anns parents in 1841

Wigan (Pemberton)
HO107/522/16-23-16

DANIEL

All b Lancashire

James 65   Farmer and Cotton Weaver
Elizabeth 70
William 45      Lab
Betty 40
Mary 30
Peter 25
Jane 10
Richard 3

Im not 100% sure but its possible that Mary 30 could be Ann  and Jane 10 is possibly her daughter

Jane

[Sisterjane]

1851 Cencus-Pemberton
HO107/2200/?/1
Warrington Rd

DANIELS

James 77 head b Winstanley     Weaver
Betty 81 wife b Drell  /Lancs
William 56 son Un b "          Lab
Peter 36 son Un b Winstanley    Weaver
Betty 52 dau Un b      "                  "
Richard 13 grandson b "

Jane

[griphynne]

Jane, you're a gem!  Thank you.  I believe you found Ann's family and it all falls into place. 

In 1840 Ann married a younger widower, William Dearden.  I've been told that the 1841 census shows them living in their own household with an infant son, Matthias, but no Jane.  By the look of the information you just provided, the reason is because Jane is living with her grandparents in 1841.  Baby Matthias died the following year and by 1851 Jane is with her mother and step-father and their three children (born in Haydock).  Furthermore, most of the Daniels clan that I can find in the area where Ann came from seem to be connected with cotton factories.  It all makes perfect sense. 

Wow.  Thanks so very much for filling in the gaps!!