1841 Census Thomas Lawrence

[idrm]

Hi All
I'm looking for the family of the above. He was born in 1774 in Sandhurst Kent and in 1851 he was living with his son in law (Charles Tree) and daughter Eliza in Northiam (Sussex) He was listed as a pauper by law?

Any help gratfully received
idrm

[CaroleW]

The 1841 does not show birthplaces - just whether they were born in the county in which they were living at that time.  Also - ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years

There were 14 Thomas Lawrence entries b between 1771-1776 and none were in Kent.  One in Sussex is shown as born there

3 are shown as not born in the county in which they were living - Gloucester, Northamptonshire and Warwickshire

Without further info it would be impossible to determine which was the correct entry

[idrm]

Thanks for that. I suppose it was a long shot.
idrm

[CaroleW]

By the way - they were not living in Sussex in 1851 - Northiam is in Kent.  Thomas was not a "pauper by law"  he was a pauper - ag lab -agricultural labourer

He was born in 1774 in Sandhurst Kent and in 1851 he was living with his son in law (Charles Tree) and daughter Eliza in Northiam (Sussex)

[CaroleW]

Now knowing his former occupation plus the fact he was still in Kent in 1851 - this is a possible entry but is indexed as LawrAnce

The White Hall Harbledown Kent - all b in county

William Lawrance 55 publican
Penelope 50
Thomas 71 agric lab

[timaussie]

Hi idrm,
I was doing a search of rootchat past messages and came across yours. I am researching TREE surname in Sussex and have some information on Charles Tree & Eliza Lawrence. I believe (but yet confirmed) that Charles Tree is a brother of the Griffess Tree that I am researching. I have not researched the Lawrence family.
Here goes:
Charles Tree married by banns Eliza Lawrence 29 Jan 1829, Northiam parish church, Sussex. They indicated they were both of this parish at the time.
Charles Tree was baptised 3 March 1806 at Northiam Parish church to parents William & Elizabeth Tree. He has other bros/sister baptised at Northiam-William(12Jan1794), David(18Nov1796), Mary(10Nov1799)& James(27Nov1803)

1841census - Tree is recorded as "Free"
North Cottage St, Ewhurst. Northiam parish
Charles Tree 30, Ag Lab Yes-Born in county
Eliza Tree 30, Yes
James Tree 11, Yes
Mary Tree 6, Yes
Thomas Tree 4, Yes
Eliza Tree 1, Yes
1851census
Bethly Rd, Northiam
Charles Tree hd, 45(1806) Ag Lab, Northiam, Sussex(NS)
Eliza Tree wife, 42 (1809), Northiam, Sussex
James Tree son, 21 Painter Journeyman, NS
Thomas Tree son, 14, Ag Lab, NS
Eliza Tree son, 10, Scholar, NS
William Tree son, 5, Scholar, NS
Alfred Tree son, 5m, NS
Thomas Lawrence FIL, widow, 77(1774) Pauper Ag Lab, Landhurst, Kent
1861census
Northiam Flat, Northiam parish
Charles Tree Hd, 55, Ag Lab, NS
Eliza Tree Wife, 51, Landurst, Kent
with children James 31, William 15 & Elizabeth 3
1871census
Northiam Flats, Northiam Parish
Charles Tree, FIL, widow, 67, NS
Living with a daughter Eliza and son-in law James Blanch.

Free BMD Index has:
Eliza Tree death as QuarterSEP1862, RD-Rye
Charles Tree death as QuarterMAR1872, Age67, RD-Rye

Do you have any information on the TREES?
Hope this helps,
Tim

[Marko1056]

Hi,
I have Thomas Lawrence born 1773 in Sandhurst kent on my tree.
Do you still want to know some more about him. What I have is limited but I am directly related to him.

Mark L

[timaussie]

Hi Mark,
Unfortunately I think 'idrm' is not rechecking her replies to her original message for more info on Thomas Lawrence.
Although mostly interested in the Trees, I would be interested in any info on the following you have on Thomas Lawrence:
1. His wife's name, marriage date & location
2. His and his wifes parent's names
3. Thomas's childrens names and where were they baptised.
4. Death date & location of Thomas and his wife.
Thanks,Tim

[Marko1056]

Hello.

Heres a link to paste into your internet browser to save me retyping it.

http://lawrence-ons.org/tho31.html

Let me know if it doesn't work

Mark