St Aubyn's Arms

[Trees]

Hi, I wonder if anyone knows anything about the history of St Aubyn's Arms Cowen. I would be very happy to see a picture of the Inn . We have just discovered that  James POOLEY kept the Inn in 1861 and one of his daughters married into my husband's BRAY family.
Cheers friends 
Trees

[Little Nell]

Trees,

I think this is the pub - in the village Praze-an-Beeble, parish of Crowan.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/190505

Nell

[cornish maid]

That's a very good photo the pub, but if you would like some more let me know and I'll go and take some for you.  My mother-in-law lives opposite it 

[Trees]

Hi Cornish maid  Yes please that would be a great addition to my pub collection I can't believe how many publicans are connected to our family I can't remember when we last went in one This will also help a new "cousin" contact from Canada his Great grandfather was sent to Canada by Barnados.
Trees

[Lilybee]

Have just found this message. I am a gt gt grandaughter of James Pool and Mary Glasson. James had a tin plate business in Crowan he also had a wholesale tea and spirits business . In 1846/1847 he kept the inn at Praze that belonged to his sister- in- law Eleanor, widow of Francis.  I have extensive information on my Pool family compiled by the two family historians sadly now deceased and there is no connection with the Pooley family.
Two years ago the St Aubyn' s Arms was in a sad way, but I was there last week at it has a new lease of life and is  really looking good.A few yards from the Arms is an area with a board saying Glasson Yard, it is now two cottages but at one time it was one dwelling house the other was a pub called the Smugglers Inn.
The following may also be of interest; I quote;
ST AUBYN ARMS Praze an Beeble Crowan        According to Mr Douch (RIC ) a property sale was advertised " at the house of William Glasson,victualler,"   Prazeanbeeble. When the house was to let in 1845 the landlady was Mrs Pool and in  1851 the landlady and proprieter was Mrs Pool. This Mrs Pool was probably ELEANOR I suspect that MARY GLASSON, the mother died about 1825 ( I notice a will of this date wherein she is designated widow- I have not seen it)
In ELEANOR's will of 1868 she leaves a public house at Praze to ,I think, her three daughters MARY TREWEEKE, ELIZABETH ABRAHAM,and HANNAH MATTHEWS, then occupied by JAMES POOLEYand THOMAS  SYMONS. Mr Douch further suggests that the POOL interest was retained but with different landlords, until after 1894 when the premises were advertised to let in that year, applicants had to be submitted to ARTHUR POOL at Parade St , Penzance. unquote
 I have a picture of the St Aubyn in Victorian ( I think) times

[Trees]

Well that is very interesting many thanks lilybee I had assumed that as James POOLEY was definitely in the St Aubyn's in 1861 RG 9/1575 fo 68 p 9 that that was where he was in 1841HO107/ 141/ 8 fo 7 p 6 and 1851 too when he was Inn Keeper and Butcher but I can now see in 1851 Eleanor POOL is Inn keeper in Praze so was my James POOLEY in a different pub then  If so when did he move to the St Aubyn's and who was at the Smugglers I have not come across that one yet was that where James POOLEY was??? Gosh you have opened a can of worms.
Wow looking at it now James POOLEY was in CROWAN town as Innkeeper in 1841 & 1851 so I have an other pub to find and it seems that he was leasing not owning the pubs Do you know when Eleanor gave up as Landlady? It must be between !851 and 1861.
I still don't understand the Thomas SYMONS being in possession in 1868
Eleanor POOLEY was nee SEEMONS was that anything to do with SYMONS  I wonder.In 1871 James POOLEY is still in Praze but simply a Butcher so that would tie in with the change of ownership in 1868 wouldn't it did the new owner become owner and landlord?
In other of "my" pubs the butcher landlord seems to have a shop attatched to or part of the pub I wonder if this was the case with the St Aubyn's Thomas SYMONS was a grocer and Draper so were the "shops" attached to or part of the pub have you any evidence of such an arrangement?
Hey ho back to the hunt it would be good to get to Cornwall and look at licences but I can't see that happening for quite a time.
Trees
Well thank you very much for this it is all adding to the picture.

[Trees]

Found in the Post Office Directory for Cornwall 1856(Historical Directories site) under Praze Traders
POOLEY James "St Aubyn's Arms farmer & Butcher
The directories often took several years to produce so  James Pooley must have been at the pub  about 1854 so the net slowly closes 
Trees

[Trees]

more developements for discussion
that 1856 directory had two entries for James POOLEY
the one given as farmer and butcher in the St Aubyn's Arms and one for POOLEY James farmer Tremaynes COwan
I have found this summary of a will of WILLIAM GLASSON
Brief details of William Glasson's will dated 30 June 1844 were that he left personal effects £1500-£2000. Sole executor was son William Glasson. His bequests were:
To wife Mary - St Aubyns Inn, Crowan. All the contents and stock of liquor. £10 annuity out of rents from his tenements in Tremayne.
To son Henry - tenement called Burnt Down. Moiety in the inn/public house in Crowan Churchtown.
To son Robert - tenements in Boswidden, Camborne. Reversionary rights in tenement of Trethanas in Crowan. Brewhouse and premises at Praze.
To daughter Eleanor (wife of Franics Pool) - 5 houses in Crowan Churchtown
To daughter Mary (wife of John Glasson) - annuity of £15 payable out of rent from estate of Tregennen in Crowan.
To daughter Hannah - two tenements called Rock Downs. Annuity of £5 from his estate of Tregennen.
To son William - residue of the estate - tenements, mines, good, chattles etc.


Now look both the St Aubyn's and Trmaynes are mentioned together
Were both directories entries of the same James POOLEY  there must be a connectin between the Pool and POOLEY families the Directory strangely does not have any Pool entries for Crowan or Praze 

There is also a reference to the Cornish Mount Inn in Crowan being owned by the Pool family and you have also mentioned the Smugglers Now I wonder did james POOLEY keep the Cornish Mount at any time was that where he was in 1841-1851?
I can't access the historic al directories that An...ry has can anyone look at them to see if there is a mention of James POOLEY in CROWAN 1841-1851 so I can establish which pub he was in at that time please
trees

[Toffywhirl]

I guess its been a pretty long time since this conversation -- but how far did you all get with the St Aubyn Arms / Cornish Mount and, more importantly perhaps for me, JAMES POOL. I am researching James Pool and his family with the view to put on a small exhibition in Hayle of the business of James and Frederick Pool in Copperhouse. My interest is also that I live in "The Cornish Mount" and Crowan. The importance of the St Aubyn Arms and the Pool family in crowan and Copperhouse is really important for me, so I'm intrigued with how far you got on your researches? and help you have would be hugely appreciated