Arthur Frank BOYLAND

[langtry]

Could someone help please?

I have  Arthur Frank Boyland born 1890 Chard Somerset,married 1921 to Winifred A. Luther. Need Parents of these two individuals if possible and maybe any children.

langtry

[Mum44]

Hi Langry

This looks like Arthur Frank:  (Frank on both censuses, but no Arthur shown on either)

1891 :  RG12. P. 1893  Fol. 76 Pg. 47
Living in Chard,  address  ? Patinbore?

John Boyland  Head  M  24  farm Lab.  B. Somt. Chaffcombe
Elizabeth  ~  Wife  M  22    B. Somt. Crewkerne
Frank      ~   Son  5 mth.    B.Somt. Chard


1901:  RG13  P. 2294  Fol. 18  Pg. 6
Living Chard,  address Gammer

BOYLAND
John  Head  M  33   Maltster / Jman   B. Somt. Chaffcombe
Elizabeth  Wife  M  32     B. Somt. Cricket St Thomas
Frank  Son  10
Albert  Son  6
Ethel  Dau  9
Gertrude  dau  3
Althea  Dau  3 mth.

All children b. Chard

Marriage John Boyland:  Chard  Q3. 1889
Two Elizabeth's on the page - Elizabeth Case and Elizabeth Zealley

[Mum44]

Do you know anything more about Winifred ?

Given that they were married in 1921 in Christchurch, Hants, there are two possible Winifred A Luthers born there:

Winifred Alice Q4. 1896

Winifred Anna  Q3. 1907

But without knowing her middle name or approx date and place of birth - no knowing whether or which might be her. 

Found one birth reg. Boyland / Luther in Q1  1825 for Arthur, in Mere, Dorset.
May be more - need to trawl the bmd.

The marriage certificate would give you father's names.........

[langtry]

HI,

Thank you for that.looks about right.The Winifred I have was born circa 1898so the Alice might be the one,also there is note of an Arther circa 1924,so probably on the right track.
This all came across to me to-day from a fellow researcher asking to view my tree  which is on GenesReunited,but I rarely give permission to view until I have researched a little about the individuals thay ask about.This particular person who has my surname was born in Brazil.
Also,on my tree I do have a John Boyland married to Elizabeth Case.
Thanks again,


langtry

[Mum44]

Well, if it is Winifred Alice, this looks possible for 1901 (can't see another b.then in the area)

1901. RG13.  P. 1045  Fol. 132  Pg. 25
Living 32 Nunsey Rd, Winton, Hants

LUTHER
James  Head  M  28  Pig dealer  B. Dorset, Cosby
Angelina  Wife  M  24  Laundress  B.  Dorset, Holt
Gertrude  Dau  6   B. Hants, Moortown
Winifred  Dau  4              ~
Beatrice  Dau  2              ~


James Luther married  Q2. 1894 Christchurch;  Angelina Pound on the page.

[langtry]

Just came up with more info,but it makes the Frank you found unlikely. first because The Frank who was son of John and Elizabeth was married to Gladys Culliford,and now I have been given siblings to Arthur Frank,born Halstock.sister Phyllis born 1890 Chard and sister Edna born 1899 Somerset,
Arthur and Winifred had Arthur 1923 and Raymond 1927,so still a bit puzzled,thank you for all your efforts on this,much appreciated.

langtry

[Mum44]

Langtry -

I am fast becoming totally bemused!

I have checked for the birth of an Arthur Frank Boyland between 1881 and 1901.

The one in Chard was the only one.

I have checked for the birth of Phyllis Boyland between 1881 and 1901

There are none.  Two born Chard 1907 and 1909

Likewise Edna Boyland 1891 - 1901 - there are none.

Where is your information from?  I can't find births or census to tie in at all      .

[langtry]

Really Really sorry about this,will go back to source of info and maybe try when I have more answers.

langtry

[Mum44]

Just to say, I have found Raymond:  registered Q2. 1927 Beaminster, Dorset.

Arthur was registered Q1. 1925 Mere Dorset.

I searched 1922 - 1924 and there was no other.

Also found 3 Boyland children, mother Culliford:

Gladys M  Q2. 1921 Pontypridd, Glamorgan
Royston  Q2. 1923  Cardiff, Glamorgan
Bessie  Q3 1924  Pontypridd, Glamorgan

Tiz a puzzlement    
I have not as yet found a Boyland / Culliford marriage.