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[sft456]

Does anyone have ccess to West Sussex Parish Records, in particluar Kirdford?

We would like details on a John Haines b Kirdford 1781, m Clara Taylor in 1803 at St Marylebone, London, died in the 1850's in Hertfordshire. Any information on his parents, siblings and where they were all baptised, married etc would be gratefuly received. The same for his wife Clara who was born in Petworth in 1786

Iwonal & Simon

[toni*]

Clara Taylor bp. 16 Spt 1781 Petworth d/o William & Anne

FRANCES TAYLOR - b. 15 July 1785 bp.: 14 AUG 1785 Petworth, d/o Wm & Ann

 WILLIAM TAYLOR - bp.: 27 JUL 1779 Petworth, s/o Willm & Ann


source IGI C070891

[Stovepipe]

Baptism at Petworth:

17 Oct 1750 William [son of] John [&] Jane TAYLOR, born 2 Oct 1750.

The above is one to consider as a candidate for Clara's father.  In which case ...

Marriage at Petworth:

3 Feb 1745 John TAYLOR [&] Jane ROBERTS, Banns

Burials at Petworth:

5 Oct 1782 John TAYLOR, 61 years
11 Mar 1784 William TAYLOR [no age or further details]


Baptisms at Petworth to John & Clara HAINES:

6 Jul 1804 William Taylor, born 8 Jun 1804 [Taylor is a given name]
12 Oct 1806 John, born 27 April 1806
30 Dec 1807 Henry, born 4 Oct 1807
1 Mar 1809 Gregory, born 29 Jan 1809


Source: PRTS transcript (which spells Clara's surname "TAYLER" in her baptism record).


HTH,
Stovepipe

[sft456]

Thank you Toni and Stovepipe for the information.

Is there a name of the church from which these records came

Clearly Clara cannot have 2 sets of parents, so who were they - William & Ann or John & Jane? Clara is recorded in the 1841 Census as b 1786 not 1781

Iwona & Simon

[Stovepipe]

Hi Iwona & Simon,

Sussex-OPC names the church St Mary's, but also gives Harrison's 1911 description in which the dedication is to Saints Mary & Thomas.

See http://www.sussex-opc.org/Database/churchlist.php?k=354&c=0

Not sure what you mean about two sets of parents for Clara.  Toni gave you her baptism information which names them as William and Anne - just the one set.

I gave you a baptism 31 years earlier for William Taylor, suggesting that he may be Clara's father.  So his parents (if he turns out to be her father), John and Jane Taylor, would be Clara's grandparents.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

There's no baptism for a Clara Taylor at Petworth that fits with a 1786 birth.  Your source is the 1841 census?  Don't forget that ages are usually rounded down there, so Clara may be up to four or five years older than her enumerated age.

HTH,
Stovepipe

[sft456]

Hello again Stovepipe

A couple of weeks ago you gave us details of John and Clara Haines first 4 children bap at St Mary's Church Petworth (as indicated below):

Baptisms at Petworth to John & Clara HAINES:

6 Jul 1804 William Taylor, born 8 Jun 1804 [Taylor is a given name]
12 Oct 1806 John, born 27 April 1806
30 Dec 1807 Henry, born 4 Oct 1807
1 Mar 1809 Gregory, born 29 Jan 1809

Source: PRTS transcript (which spells Clara's surname "TAYLER" in her baptism record).

We recently asked for more details of some of their children, among whom was Gregory (above). The chatter advised us that he joined the Army and m Eliza Mona Gough (d of Sir, later 1st Viscount Gough). The 1861 Census records him as 52 with his family. His youngest brother Sir Frederick Paul Haines (1819 – 1909) became the youngest Field Marshall and C-in-C India. Gregory d in 1874 in Ireland. His father was Gregory Haines (1778 – 1853), his mother Harriet Eldridge

We have been trying to convince this chatter that our Gregory could not have been this Army man as the two families (John’s of 11 children and Gregory snr of 4 children) did not tally. The only common record is that they were both born in Kirdford, Sussex as were their fathers

Two problems arise:

1 We still know nothing about our Gregory
2 Was Gregory snr and John related. This is important as my late mother was always curious to know whether Sir Frederick Paul Haines was related!

Simon & Iwona

[janan]

Hi

Both Gregorys have extracted baptism records on the IGI, by amazing coincidence they were both born 29 Jan 1809!

Jan

[sft456]

Hello

Thank you for this but would you please expand upon this information in terms of what we are trying to find out.

1 Details about our Gregory (son of John)
2 Were the 2 fathers, John and Gregory related?

Simon & Iwona

[janan]

Hi

The extracted records on the IGI can be searched by parish using this site

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/

By looking at the various entries you may be able to establish whether John father of your Gregory and Gregory father of the army Gregory are related - highly likely that they are somehow. I've had a look (can't resist  ) and can't see a baptism for either your John or Gregory born c1778  in Petworth or Kirdford. As both parishes are well extracted for the period, it looks like they were baptised elsewhere, non-conformist or of course not baptised.

I am putting in a link to your other thread so all the info is easily available for others who may be able to help

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,306333.0.html


I will see if I can find anything on your Gregory

Jan