A tenner for Sally Ann challenge.

[ChasH]

Chatters,

I have come to the conclusion, after many personal attempts, that nobody will find an IGI submitted entry for a birth/christening/marriage which is EXACTLY the same as an IGI extracted entry for the same event.

If you think you can prove me wrong and can find a submitted entry to be exactly the same (that includes upper/lower case lettering, incorrect spelling, extra/missing words/characters, location etc.) as an extracted entry, I'll give a tenner to the Sally Ann. 

Being a pensioner I'm afraid I can only afford one tenner but I'm confident it's safe

Can you make me pay out?

Regards

Chas

[jc26red]

 
not sure what you're after?

why do you want to find a submittal when an extracted record from the BTs are a more reliable (subject to transcription errors) and a checkable reference! 
they are 2 totally different entries by 2 different people; one source is checkable and the other usually doesn't give any details whatsoever to check!

jc

[ChasH]

snip

If you think you can prove me wrong and can find a submitted entry to be exactly the same (that includes upper/lower case lettering, incorrect spelling, extra/missing words/characters, location etc.) as an extracted entry, I'll give a tenner to the Sally Ann. 

snip

Can you make me pay out?

I thought that was clear enough.  Which bit do you not understand?

Chas

[jc26red]

clear but WHY?

[RJ_Paton]

not sure what you're after?

why do you want to find a submittal when an extracted record from the BTs are a more reliable (subject to transcription errors) and a checkable reference! 
they are 2 totally different entries by 2 different people; one source is checkable and the other usually doesn't give any details whatsoever to check!

jc

I don't believe that Chas is after any particular individual but rather is throwing down the gauntlet to Rootschatters to find two completely identical IGI entries- 1 submitted 1 extracted.
However given the conditions he has placed on the challenge and bearing in mind your points regarding the submissions being made by different individuals I strongly suspect that the £10 is safe

[jc26red]

very safe bet as its a totally useless excerise....  no one in their right mind would waste time trying which makes me wonder why ChasH ever tried looking in the first place 


ps I did totally understand the first post!  my second post was probably phrased better
                                         

                                                                    WHY?

[RJ_Paton]

WHY?

some people cannot resist a challenge, no matter how forlorn the chase.

Look at previous "challenges" the most notable of which was "censuswhacking" ...

[ChasH]

It seems that nobody who has answered knows why I think my tenner is safe.

The theory is that if an LDS member finds an extracted entry which he/she considers is of his/her family and submits the exact same details in accordance with LDS procedures, after the LDS ordinances have been carried out the details in the extracted batch are deleted.

I am trying to test that theory but it seems many just like waffling without considering the challenge's reason seriously.

I have searched thousands of years of church records - PR's & BT's- and have found many instances of events being absent from extracted batches but that does not test the theory sufficiently well and I was hoping somebody might break it.  I've asked the question at two LDS FHC's and was told that they did not think entries in Batches were ever deleted.

Chas.

[jc26red]

no Charles, I prefer to spend my time doing REAL lookups to help others rather than test the LDS for what I can see is a pointless challenge.