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" COMPLETED" - Monty Francis-Grantham marriage & birth Look up
« on: Saturday 07 June 08 16:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Guys

I am searching for a birth for Montague Francis c 1837 Grantham

I have him as child of William Francis & Ann ??
[can you find surname of mum too ??] and a marriage date ?

they had 9 children - I have found baptism for 1st five from IGI and qtr records for last 3 but Monty is a mystery.

other children are Augusta/Sarah/Caroline/Amelia/William/MONTAGUE/Emma/Harriet/Hester all between  1830 - 1845
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Jo


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Re: Monty Francis-Grantham marriage & birth Look up
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 June 08 16:40 BST (UK) »
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other children are Augusta/Sarah/Caroline/Amelia/William/MONTAGUE/Emma/Harriet/Hester all between  1830 - 1845


Augusta was born in 1824 Grantham so have you discounted the 1823 marriage in Grantham on the IGI to Ann Cutlin??
 
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can you find surname of mum too ??

Several of the children were born after 1837 - a copy of one of their birth certs will give you Ann's maiden name and confirm whether the IGI entry is the correct one
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Re: Monty Francis-Grantham marriage & birth Look up
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 June 08 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole

I ahve been on computer too long  :-[

Yes you right about Augusta bap.31 Mar 1824 and I had seen the marriage Ann Cutlin  too tired forgot to put in post .

I wonder if anyone is able to verify ? and help find Monty too.

[ps he appears on census so I know he is their child]
Jo

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Re: Monty Francis-Grantham marriage & birth Look up
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 June 08 16:54 BST (UK) »
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I wonder if anyone is able to verify


The only way you will verify that it is the correct marriage is by buying a copy of one of the older childrens birth certs to get Ann's maiden name

Births Sep 1845   

Hester Ellen Francis   Grantham  14 378
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Re: Monty Francis-Grantham marriage & birth Look up
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 June 08 16:55 BST (UK) »
Age 4 in 1841 census implies a birth between June 1836 and May 1837.  The Grantham IGI batch ends at 1835 and registration began in July 1837.  :(

My marriage index has the name as Ann CATLIN.  You will find a possible birth in the IGI as CATLIN but not as CUTLIN.
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Re: Monty Francis-Grantham marriage & birth Look up
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 June 08 17:38 BST (UK) »
Geoff
You always go the extra mile for us Thank you :) 

quote "Age 4 in 1841 census implies a birth between June 1836 and May 1837.  The Grantham IGI batch ends at 1835 and registration began in July 1837."

I wish my brain is so always on the ball  :)

So Monty will have to be side lined for now.......

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 June 08 18:57 BST (UK) »
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If you do a search on http://freereg.rootsweb.com/ you will find the marriage of William Francis & Ann Cantlin, both of Grantham.

The witnesses were John Cantlin & Sarah Cantlin if this helps.

Gill
Pickering - Newland, Cottingham (E.Yorks) poss. Durham
Wiles - Atwick, E. Yorks
Cape - Bridlington, Hull
May - Lincs & E.Yorks
Lamb, Leonard & Ingram - Holderness
Holmes - Knottingley/Gainsborough
Paterson - Southwark, London

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 June 08 22:00 BST (UK) »
 :) :)

Thank you Gillywilly

I  forget all about checking  FreeReg thanks for reminding me about it,
Jo

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 June 08 22:24 BST (UK) »
I  forget all about checking  FreeReg

So do I ... you'll find Monty's baptism there too (1 Dec 1836)  Just search on the surname.
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