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Yet another lookup please>>>
« on: Saturday 07 June 08 18:13 BST (UK) »
1871 Census in Dyffryn Clydach, Cadoxton Juxta Neath. However, 1861 is showing as it being Blaenrhondda in Cadoxton, and 1851 simply calling it Neath - I'm not familiar with the area, so beats me exactly where this is supposed to be.

I've got the 1841 Census showing the house as Cwm Clydach, in 1851 it's known as Bryncoch (HO 107/2464, Fol 385, Page 2) with the next two residences on the pages being 5 & 6 Bryncoch Colliery), and in 1861 it's listed as 4 Tanyfelin(?), with the house before it being Bryncoch (RG 9/4093, page 12 unknown folio sorry).

The family in 1841 and 1851 was headed by Margaret Evans, but she appears to have died between 1851 and 1861, and the head is now Phillip Evans (with wife Catherine, daughters Margaret, Mary (x2), Catherine, Elizabeth, and his younger brother William.

I was short of time this morning, so didn't manage to get to look for the 1871, and it bugs me so much to get new info and then have to quit hence the begging!

Also, if anyone has any local knowledge and could give me some sort of reference point on a current map that would be great - seem to be struggling with Google Local  :-[



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Buckley - Maesteg, Tipperary
Lane - Waterford
Hughes - Hay/Hereford
Hobby - Byford
Evans - Neath/Cadoxton
Whitty - Wexford, South Wales
Connell - Ireland, and possibly Liverpool
White - Kinsale, Cork
Ahearn(?) - Glanmire, Cork
Millward - Merthyr, Maesteg

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Re: Yet another lookup please>>>
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 June 08 18:26 BST (UK) »
one of these maps might help
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/placemaps/

the places within bit on Genuki might help you as well
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/CadoxtonJuxtaNeath/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 June 08 18:34 BST (UK) »
1871 Cottage (between Bryncoch Cottage & Bryncoch Farm) Blaenhonddan RG10/5428 folio 48 pg 11
Philip Evans head mar 50 collier
Catherine wife 47
Elizabeth dau 13
Hannah dau 8
David son 5
William son 2
all born Glamorgan   ::)


oops - forgot to mention your missing folio number is 25
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Yet another lookup please>>>
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 June 08 18:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks yet again - you seem to be doing more of my tree than I am  ;)

So I now have a fourth name for the house - they're records seem to show that they move every census when they're actually still in the same place - very odd!

And finally they have sons -'three new members to add.

Wonder where William went to - I'm just glad that Phillip came back home - I'm wishing for a surname like Zachary or suchlike  :(
census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Buckley - Maesteg, Tipperary
Lane - Waterford
Hughes - Hay/Hereford
Hobby - Byford
Evans - Neath/Cadoxton
Whitty - Wexford, South Wales
Connell - Ireland, and possibly Liverpool
White - Kinsale, Cork
Ahearn(?) - Glanmire, Cork
Millward - Merthyr, Maesteg


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 June 08 19:01 BST (UK) »
Actually, another big thank you - managed to almost pinpoint the location exactly thanks to letting me know that it was between Bryncoch Cottage and Bryncoch Farm.

Looks like they turned down planning permission for 600 houses on the farmland a few years back.

Approx postcode of the cottage I'm looking for would be SA10 7YG - noted there's a pub right next to the farm (Dyffryn Arms). Weather's looking good, so will be taking a trip up one weekend!
census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Buckley - Maesteg, Tipperary
Lane - Waterford
Hughes - Hay/Hereford
Hobby - Byford
Evans - Neath/Cadoxton
Whitty - Wexford, South Wales
Connell - Ireland, and possibly Liverpool
White - Kinsale, Cork
Ahearn(?) - Glanmire, Cork
Millward - Merthyr, Maesteg

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 June 08 19:19 BST (UK) »
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 June 08 21:50 BST (UK) »
Oh wow - it's in incredibly close proximity to the farm as well (assuming that the farmhouse is still in the same location.

I'll have to dig through some of the census returns to see how close to the farm this pub was back then!
census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Buckley - Maesteg, Tipperary
Lane - Waterford
Hughes - Hay/Hereford
Hobby - Byford
Evans - Neath/Cadoxton
Whitty - Wexford, South Wales
Connell - Ireland, and possibly Liverpool
White - Kinsale, Cork
Ahearn(?) - Glanmire, Cork
Millward - Merthyr, Maesteg