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davies family
« on: Monday 30 June 08 12:51 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm looking for some help,  I'm looking for the  parents or family of  Moses Davies born around 1834-37 in a place called ST dogwells or ST Ogwells in Fishguard Pembrokeshire, as I cant find nothing showing him on the 1841 censers or  any records before.

I  have found him in the 1851-61-71-81-91-1901 censers

  Moses  later went on to have three daughters  Mary Ann, Jane and Martha :'( sadly Martha died I found them living Llanistian, Fishguard.

 He and his family later moved to aberaman in Glamorgan where he died. 
 
  Would be gratefull for any help. :)
 


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Re: davies family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 20:42 BST (UK) »
Do you have his marriage certificate? If not, you should get it to find out the details of his father.
This looks like the registration
Moses Davies march qtr 1861 Haverfordwest vol 11a pg 779 with Margaret Nicholas on the same page.
Haverfordwest registration district covered Llanstinan and St Dogwells.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/StDogwells/index.html

On the 1891 census, he gave his place of birth as Welsh Hook which comes under St Dogwells  - not to be confused with St Dogmaels also in Pembs....
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: davies family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 21:12 BST (UK) »
just double checked the IGI batch no C082941 for St Dogwells and there is a baptism for Moses David bp 17/4/1835 son of James & Margaret. The only other Moses in the batch was baptised in 1854.
Also baptised to the same parents, David bp 7/6/1829 and another David bp 8/7/1832

1841 Welsh Hook, St Dogwells HO107/1444/7 folio 18 pg 8
James David 48 farmer
Margaret 32
David 8
Morris 6
Mathias 3
Amah (?) 3 months (male)
same building separate household
Thomas David 78 minister of the gospel farming ??
Mary David 69 independent
all born in county
there's some other words in the occupation fields for Thomas & Mary that aren't very
clear

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: davies family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 21:44 BST (UK) »
1851 Welsh Hook, St Dogwells HO107/2480 folio 258 pg 6
James Davies head mar 59 carpenter
Margaret wife 44 b. St Lawrence
David son 19 carpenter
Amos son 10
Eunice dau 5
all born St Dogwells unless otherwise stated

birth reg for Eunice
Eunice Davies dec qtr 1845 Haverfordwest vol 26 pg 567
which will give you mother's maiden name

In 1871, David, now married, and Amos are in Unity Street, Aberdare RG10/5407 folio 72 pgs 21-22. Amos moves back to Pembs, but David is still in Unity Street, Fforchaman in 1891 in the same enumeration district as Moses. RG12/4444 folio 96 pg2.

Theory looks to hold ok, but marriage cert for Moses would confirm father.

 :D
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: davies family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 July 08 10:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey,

Thanks for the information,really appreciate it, I've been looking a long time but couldn,t find anything.

 I kept coming up with Margaret nicholas as his wife.  I tried to order their marriage certificate but its asking for a GRO reference index, I'm not sure what it is. I was wondering if you could help me on that please.

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Re: davies family
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 July 08 11:12 BST (UK) »
Do you have his marriage certificate? If not, you should get it to find out the details of his father.
This looks like the registration
Moses Davies march qtr 1861 Haverfordwest vol 11a pg 779 with Margaret Nicholas on the same page.
Haverfordwest registration district covered Llanstinan and St Dogwells.


Great sleuthing Osprey...

GRO reference index that Osprey supplied above in bold. Here is a info link on ordering certs http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/bmdcerts.htm


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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: davies family
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 July 08 12:09 BST (UK) »
If cert proves correct possible parish marriage: (info also submitted IGI)

James Davies - Margaret Morse 24 June 1828 at St Dogwells

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: davies family
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 July 08 22:03 BST (UK) »
Hi both  ;D

hope you've ordered the marriage cert, Bramwell, and it proves to be the correct one.

Cas, that looks a good match in the parish records. I think I'm getting a bee in my bonnet about surnames for this period. It's interesting how some families add 's', but not consistently, and why?

 ::)    :D 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: davies family
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 July 08 23:34 BST (UK) »
HI both,

Certificate  has been ordered, will update u when I receive it.

I must say the two of you have really impressed me.

Have u got any advice on searching before 1837?  As over the last couple of months, I have learned how to search the census records, BMD records.

Didn't realise how addictive it can be lol  :)