Thanks for that - pity no one answered the phone at the other end could have saved me years in research LOL

Checked my notes and it seems to be the right guy.
1901 aged 43 wheelwright living in Hulme
1891 aged 3* painter living in Hulme
1881 aged 25 blacksmith living in Gorton
1871 aged 15 scholar living in Gorton
1861 aged 4 scholar living in Levenshulme
