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Pre 1837 records
« on: Thursday 17 July 08 20:01 BST (UK) »
Hello
I have a marriage in 1824 . I have traced the baptisms of all the children I can find by using IGI and parish records at the library . Unfortunately , they are all pre 1837 and I am therefore unable to verify maiden name of wife /mother by applying for a birth certificate .
Her surname has not been used as a christian name for any of the children .
Have I reached the end of the road or is it possible to search for any other documents to help me make the connection that I have the correct marriage and parents ?
many thanks for your time . Regards
Eric

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Re: Pre 1837 records
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 July 08 20:42 BST (UK) »


Hi Eric

Have you looked at marriages for any of the children?  Do any of the witnesses give any clues?  Are ther any addresses or occupations that help?

Have you looked to see if any of the parties involved - or their parents or unmarried siblings - left a will?  These can give no clues at all, or they can give huge chunks of the tree away.

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Re: Pre 1837 records
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 July 08 21:11 BST (UK) »
Hello Emms
Many thanks for your  reply . The idea of the wills may be a possibility . I have not done any research on wills at all .
I have looked at the marriages of the children also but I think that I will have to sit down again and try to see if I have missed anything .
Many thanks
Eric

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Re: Pre 1837 records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 July 08 01:20 BST (UK) »
When you say you "have a marriage in 1824,"  do you mean you have found the marriage in the parish registers, but the wife's surname isn't given or do mean that you surmise that the couple married about 1824 based on the baptisms you have found, or that you've found a marriage of a couple with the right names, but are uncertain if it's the right couple?

The first would be rather odd.  Though not impossible - far too often vicar's seem to have left surnames blank, presumably intending to fill it in later, but I've never seen it on a marriage.  Are any witnesses to the marriage recorded in the register?

Re-reading your post, I don't think you mean the second option.

If it's the last one, then are there other marriages of couples with the right names around 1824?  You might have to research the other families to rule them out.  If you follow the wife's family upwards, are there any names that get re-used in the couple's children?  Are the couple still around on the 1841 census?  If so, do the details match one of the couples better than the others?  Is the first child born/baptised in a different place to the others?  If so, that might be the mother going back to her mother for the birth.  If there is more than one matching couple, then have you traced each of the families to see which can be ruled out?
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
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East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Pre 1837 records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 July 08 08:05 BST (UK) »
Hello Aulus
Many thanks for your comprehensive reply . I have found it difficult to relate my findings in a post without making it too complicated .
It is the third option that you have stated that applies . I appreciate your views and I can now understand what my next research should be .
many thanks
Eric