William Coggins ( Cogins)/Jane West of Halse?

[Lumber-Jack]

Hi RootsChatters,

 I have been trying to locate the birth place of a son , William, of my great(x2) grandfather Richard Coggins ( spelt also Cogins).

I have a record that a Richard Cogins married Jane West (Banbury 16 p27 June 1843) on the Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire border.

 In the 1851 Census , a William age 7 is living with Richard Coggins and Anne Edwards his second wife in Noke Oxfordshire. I also have a parish record of a burial of a Jane Coggins June 21 1849 age 30 in St Giles Church, Noke Oxfordshire and a parish marriage record that Richard Coggins was a widower when he married Anne Edwards in Noke on Sept 22 1850.

The 1851 census record (HO107 1720 p2 ) states the birthplace of William as Northamptonshire "Haulse" ...the latter town name is very difficult to decipher from the handwriting and the best match I can come up with from studying old maps is the hamlet of Halse. The 1872 census just says "Han's" which is I am sure shortform for Northamptonshire.

Any help to find William's birth or christening  place or record would be most welcome as it could close the loop and confirm that Jane was indeed Richard's  first wife. Her birth record would be valuabe to find too. Unfortunately their married life falls between censuses making tracing them living together almost impossible.

Thanks very much, Lumber-Jack

[CaroleW]

Hi

Nothing to do with your actual query but did you notice that on the 1861 census, Richard & Ann are living next door to a James Coggins and wife  - James was also b Weston on the Green as was Richard

RG9  Piece 897 Folio 64 Page 9

[heywood]

Hello
have you already checked the two birth records on Free BMD

William Coggin 1843
William Cogin 1846

both these are Brackley district and Halse is 2 miles (according to google map) from Brackley.

Just seen that the 1846 one has parents William and Mary

[Lumber-Jack]

Thanks CaroleW....yes, we have been tracking the WotG Coggins through the censuses and have most of the detail...I appreciate you pointing out the neighbour relationship which we can easily overlook!
Thanks too Heywood.....my guess is that William Coggin of Brackley 15/198 September 1843 is the best candidiate so far for the missing son. It fits  for age and location. I went to IGI and could not find a records of his parentage ( birth or baptism) which will be necessary to clinch it. Do you have any idea where these could be found or should I bite the bullet and send for a cert? Also does anyone know whether Halse in the 1800's was spelt Haulse?
Thanks very much as always to you all for such great help, Lumber-Jack

[heywood]

I agree that one seems to fit and I'd go for it - I know these things cost money and it builds up but when you think of the energies spent in trying to find it, it would be worth proving/eliminating.

good luck
heywood

[CaroleW]

Hi

If you did decide to send for the birth cert, you can put a condition on your application that you only want it if father was Richard

If it's the wrong entry - the GRO will only charge a £3 search fee

[seahall]

Hi Lumber-Jack

I looked at Brackley Parish records today and can confirm that your William
does not seem to be the 1846 one.

Brackley Parish Church Baptism

Pg. 25. No. 195 Baptised March 22nd 1846 Born March 20th 1846
William Son of William and Mary Coggins Brackley St James Mason

No other baptisms for the surname prior to 1846 or later.

Sandy

[Lumber-Jack]

Thanks for checking Sandy....I have sent for the other "43 Coggin cert...we shall see what transpires. I will report back to this list. Best wishes, Lumber-Jack

[Lumber-Jack]

Thanks very much Sandy, CarolW, and Heywood,

I am very happy to report that I got the marriage cert for :  Richard Cogins and Jane West, labourer bachelor and spinster,  married on April17 1843 . Places of residence at time of marrriage   Croughton -in- Northamptonshire and Sibford Gower. Fathers Thomas Cogins and William West , both labourers. Witnesses William West and Thomas Mannising(sp?).  Parish Church in Parish of Sibford county of Oxford.

Croughton is close SW of Brackley and Sibford Gower is close west of Banbury.

Also birth cert :21 june 11 pels(?) 1843 Brackley St Peter, William, boy, father Richard Coggin agricultural labourer, mother Jane Coggin , fomerly West, x mark of Jane Coggins mother, residence and place of birth Brackley St Peter, registered 17 July 1843, William Gillett registrar

Interesting that the place of birth and residence is St Peter, Brackley....not a house or street.

These are certainly the right persons and we have solved the puzzle of the first wife of my gr x2 grandfather Coggins and their son William.

Once again Rootschatters come through! Thanks, Lumber-Jack