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Offline genjen

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My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« on: Wednesday 23 July 08 21:16 BST (UK) »
My great grandfather, Clarence. Can anyone tell me what his medals were, please? On his gravestone it says that he was an MBE but I haven't been able to find any evidence of that.
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SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 21:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Whilst you are waiting for your restore.

The medal on the left (shaped like a cross) of the set of three looks like the MBE to me.  What was your G. Grandfathers full name?

Regards,
Mo
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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 21:53 BST (UK) »
Clarence Samuel Howe.
Born 1865, Brightlingsea, essex but lived most of his life in Aberdeen and Nairn.

Jen
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 July 08 00:14 BST (UK) »
Quick tidy from me
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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 July 08 01:54 BST (UK) »
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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 July 08 15:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave and Irene,

Thanks for the clean up. He looks somewhat smarter now!

Still hoping someone might be able to say for definite on the MBE question. I'd love to know when and why.

Cheers,

Jen
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 July 08 19:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Well, he took a bit of finding ;D. 

Go to www.gazettes-online.co.uk and choose the Edinburgh one.  Look down the right hand side for "Search the Archive" and then advanced search. Just put the date in and in the "exact phrase" box type Clarence Samuel Howe. 

Issue is 13582 1st April, 1920  Capt. Clarence Samuel Howe, Master SS "City of London" Page 83.  If you go to page 1 of the supplement you will see it is the honours list and page 56 is the start of the MBE`s (I think).

Regards,
Mo
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 July 08 19:59 BST (UK) »
Mo,

That is fantastic. Thank you so much for finding it. I honestly thought that whoever ordered Clarence's gravestone had either made a mistake or had delusions of grandeur.

I knew that he had been involved in a sea rescue, when he was a much younger man, which resulted in a citation from the King of Norway. Seems he was quite a man!

Thanks again.

Jen
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: My great grandfather is a bit grubby
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 May 19 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen,

My name is Brian Howe Smith, my mother's maiden name was Margaret Glass Howe and my grandfather was your grandfather's brother (one of 5 brothers) Benjamin Clarence Howe.
We share the same great grandfather - Clarence Samuel Howe.
By the way I live in Cheshire having emigrated from Greenock. - Further details will be supplied if you can Facebook me under Brianwsb (in Northwich) 
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