HARDER and WALLMANN family South Australia

[elsie ellen]

Thought I should start a new topic as I branch out to follow the marriage of Louise Dorothea WALLMANN.

Louise Dorothea WALLMANN (1850-1903) married Peter HARDER 18 Oct 1866. I would like to learn more about the HARDER connection,if possible. I have no BD&M information for Peter.

Louise and Peter had three children:
Henry John (1868-1947) m Lucy DAVOREN (1867-1939)
Bertha Annie (1866-) m Samuel WATT (circa 1873-)
Louisa Helena(1874-) m Gerhard HEYEN (circa 1860-)

I know the names of the children born to Henry and Lucy, but have no family details for for his two sisters.

I was also wondering if there might be a BISA entry for any HARDER family members as well as Samuel WATT, Gerhard HEYER and possibly Lucy DAVOREN or her parents?.

Cheers

Elsie

[craizi daizi]

Hi Elsie, 

Just to get you started i have

Louise Helena HARDER born 30 /5/ 1874
Adelaide
book 135  page 417

Bertha Annie HARDER born 10 / 12 / 1866
Adelaide
book 33 page 685

Cant seem to find this John Henry though,  will keep looking

Daizi

[deeiluka]

This is what BISA has for the Peter Harder……

Peter HARDER
 0ccupation = Carpenter
Lived at  Mile End, Jervis Peninsula
Religion = C/E and  RC
He was married on  17th October 1866 in Adelaide SA to Louise Dorothea nee
WALLMANN
Her father was Heinrich Friedk Whm
She was born around 1850 and died 24th July 1903 at Mile End SA
Children =
Henry John (1868-1947)
Wilhelmina VICK (1871-)
Louisa Cath HEYLEN (1874-1925)
Annie Orrilia (1885-1954),
Louisa Bertha




.....dee

[craizi daizi]

Ok,  have the marriage of Henry John Harder,  Married Lucy Davoren ,  bride age 25,  groom age 24  Brides father Thomas Davoren
Married 10 / 08/ 1893 at St Paul Church,  Adelaide
Book / page :  176 / 458

Samuel Watt married Bertha Annie Harder 26 / 10 /1904
Gooms age 31 and Brides age 37,  Married at St Pauls Church.. Adelaide  Grooms father James Watt

book / page :  221/400


Louisa married Gerhard  20 / 02 / 1895 at St Pauls Church Adelaide ,  Grooms age 28,  Brides age 20
Grooms fathers name Hermann Heyen
book/page 182/690

Wilhelmina married Henry VICK  03/01 1893 at St Pauls (as above) groom - 24 bride - 22
Grooms father -  George john Vick
book / page  - 174/15


Ottilia Annie Louise Harder married  Stan;ey Leonard METCALF
20 /12 1911 at the same church as above,  bride - 26,  groom 22
Grooms father Thomas Fletcher Metcalf

book / page - 249/925

There is a another male with father Peter that married that you havnt mentioned ??

Daizi

[deeiluka]

Here's the info from BISA for Henry John.....

Henry John HARDER born 19th Aug 1868 Cape Jervis, South Australia died 27th Aug 1947 and buried at Dudley Park South Australia
Parents =  Peter and Louise Dorothea nee WALLMANN
Occupation = Carpenter
Lived in  Adelaide
Religgion  =  RC and  C of E
He married on 10th Aug 1893  10.8.1893 in Adelaide SA Lucy nee DAVOREN who was born 24th July 1867 in Willunga SA and died 16th Sep 1939.
Children =
Annie
Louisa Violet Alma (1903-)



.....dee

[elsie ellen]

Craizi Daizi and ...dee this is a good start indeed.

More children than I had known of, so that's already a plus. The BISA entry for Peter Harder is quite informative. Pity though his father wasn't named!

Elsie

[deeiluka]

No other Harder entries had a Peter as a son, Elsie.


.....dee

[deeiluka]

BISA has Gerhard Heyer as HEYEN.

Gerhard HEYEN born 22nd May 1866 and died 27th July 1959. He was buried at Cheltenham.
Parents = Herman or Gerard and Cath
He lived at Pt Adelaide and Birkenhead
Religion  = C of E
Married  20th Feb 1895 in Adelaide SA to Louise Henrietta nee
HARDER
Her parents were  Peter and Cath nee WALLMAN
She was born 30th May1874 in Adelaide SA and died 30th May 1925 in Birkenhead SA
Children =
 Herman Peter Otto (1897-c1973)
Gerhard Heinrich (1900-1980)
Cath (1904-1905)
John Fredk
(1907-1981)
Grace Helena (1909-)
Clara Elsie (1915-)




.......dee

[craizi daizi]

Elsie

Seems there is another HARDER family in the area also,  as i have a JURGEN THEODOR JOHANN HARDER (father Peter) age 29  marrying a Anna Charlottes Margarethe HARDER  (father Christian)  25/04/1908

Daizi