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[soley]

hello, i was wondering if anyone could help me, im trying to research EMILY WILLIAMS

here the information i have

 1901 census abbey dore hereford

tan house farm

john powell-head-48
george powell- brother-43
mary powell-sister-45
elizabeth powell-niece-21

emily williams-servent-12

i also know that in 1916 she gave birth to a baby boy and give him up for adoption , father unknown

i would like to find out more on emily's family

she was born in kingston about 1889

any help would be greatful

thank u

[Arranroots]

Hello

She is with her family in Eaton Bishop in 1891

RG12/2060 ED14 F170 P5

William WILLIAMS 30 H M  Gardener born Preston on Wye
Eliza 29 W M born Madley
Agness 7 dau born Madley
Emily A 2 dau born Kingston
Henery 1 son born Eaton Bishop
Edith M 11 months dau born Eaton Bishop

Address near New Barns, Eaton Bishop, Burghill, Herefordshire

Hope this helps 

Arranroots

[soley]

thank you for ur help

wondering if you could help find out if emily ever got married and any other information would be greatful

[casalguidi]

Hi Soley

Here is Emily's family in 1901:

The Common, Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire

William WILLIAMS head mar 40 gardener b.Preston on Wye, Herefordshire
Eliza wife 39 b.Madley Herefordshire
Edith M dau 10 b.Eaton Bishop Herefordshire
George H son 8 b.Eaton Bishop
Clara J dau 6 b.Eaton Bishop
Herb...? ? W son 4 b.Abbey Dore? Herefordshire
Ethel F dau 2 b.Abbey Dore? Herefordshire

RG13/2484 folio 21 page 1

Do you have an address for Emily's baby's birth in 1916?  I was just wondering if she had the baby at home with her family or elsewhere?  Just to get some kind of clue as to where it is best to start looking ...........

Casalguidi

[soley]

i am so greatful for all ur help

not much information on birth

only know that under name it has herbert griffin

and he was born 34 north place  (with [U.D] after)

on 8th may 1916

mother residents is put as

yew tree cottage
abbey dore
hereford
herefordshire

the only other information i have that he was adopted and turned into vernon herbert moore

his adoptive dad was called george
mothers name unknown

step brothers and sisters

lilian born about 1912
 
harold born about 1910

bert born about  1908

renee born about 1905

evalin born about 1901

leonard born about 1900

the birth years are not 100%

also know that vernon got married in oxford 1939 to my partners nan

i find this very puzzling and cannot explain how much all ur help means to me

thanks again

[casalguidi]

Hi Soley

I would think that the best place to start would be to try and find out exactly who was living at Yew Tree Cottage, Abbey Dore about 1916.  The main local libary should have street diretories for the area or be able to tell you where they were if they don't have them.  These street directories list head of household and you can work backwards and forwards (they were normally published each year) to see how long the family lived there. 

Another good idea might be to try and locate the electoral registers (again try the main local library) from 1918 for that address and these will list all men over 21 and women over 30 who were elligible to vote.  It might be a good idea to try this just to make sure that you have the right family in the census returns as I assume that you don't have anything to confirm Emily's age as yet.  There were an awful lot of WILLIAMS families in Herefordshire!

Does it not say where 34 North Place was?  Was it in Abbey Dore or was it somewhere else?  Might be on the top of the certificate.  UD just means urban district ie. in a town or whatever

So was the baby named Herbert Griffin WILLIAMS son of Emily WILLIAMS?  Does it give a second name for Emily or not?

Casalguidi

[Arranroots]

...and then there is the unscientific approach!!

Had a look at the 1901 to see if there were any GRIFFINs living near Emily at that time.  Abbey Dore is a tiny village, but not far from her "roots".  Suspect the place of birth is in Hereford itself, try multimap.com.

The eye alighted on one Henry Herbert GRIFFIN, then aged 17, born Norton Cannon and living in Dilwyn in 1901.  Probably just a coincidence?  Dilwyn is near Leominster.

There was a 52 year old Charles GRIFFIN (prob not the father) but who was born in Eaton Bishop, so there were obviously some GRIFFINs locally at some time.

There was also a family living at Kentchurch (v near by)with a 9 year old son.

As I say, very unreliable way of looking at things!!

Arranroots

Another thought: do you have partner's nan's wedding cert?  Just a chance the father may be named on there, rather than the stepfather.