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KILNER, Thomas, Nottingham
« on: Wednesday 20 August 08 20:22 BST (UK) »
Thomas William Kilner was born in Leic in 1881.

In July 1915, he joined the army and gave his address as 5, Lion Terrace, Carlton Road, Nottingham. He served in the Leicestershire regiment in India and Mesopotamia and was discharged as no longer fit for service in Jan 1818.

I can find no record of him after that; I don't know if he returned to Nottingham or even the UK.

If anyone has any info either about a possible "sighting", or any info about the Nottingham address, I'd be very grateful!
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Info on army discharge records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 20:27 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to trace my great-grandfather, Thomas Kilner.

He joined the Leic Regiment in 1915, served in India and Mesopotamia, and was discharged as no longer fit for duty in Jan 1818 (due to "intemperance"!)

I've found this info on the British Army WW1 pension records site. I've also found the address from which he joined the army but I can't see any discharge address. In fact I can't even tell if he returned to the UK.

Does anyone know if there is any way of finding this out?

Muchas gracias!

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Re: KILNER, Thomas, Nottingham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 22:19 BST (UK) »
I notice he was already married when he enlisted so presume he did not return home to your great grandmother

Same message also posted on the following links so check in case of duplicated replies

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Re: KILNER, Thomas, Nottingham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 22:34 BST (UK) »
The marraige had broken down before he enrolled.

Although he had children (otherwise I wouldn't be here!),  no allowance was made for them in assessing his pension.

He seems to have disappeared without trace - I'm wondering if he ever came back to the UK or if he "went native" on discharge - I guess some people did that?
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Re: KILNER, Thomas, Nottingham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 22:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie
And a warm welcome to Rootschat - lots of lovely people on this site
Yes I have looked at his pension record on ancestry - at time of attestation in 1915 - for married - he first says 'no' then says 'yes' . No dependants are mentioned which is odd and also his mother Mrs Underwood is given as his next of kin (next of kin - would usually be his wife not his mother) - so looks like the marriage had broken up by the time he attested.

I found a marriage in June Qtr 1903 in Leicester District  Thomas Wm Kilner to either Evelyn Holyland or Adeline Chamberlain Simons - do you know which one he married.

If Thomas is your great grandfather - do you know the name of your grandfather ?

Do you know the names of any of Thomas Kilners children ?
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Re: Info on army discharge records
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 23:19 BST (UK) »
 If he is Thomas William Kilner, Pte 19421, Leicester Regiment, then his intended place of residence on discharge looks like 36 (or 56) Donnington St, Leicester. Discharged 18/01/18.

Military character: Good
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Re: Info on army discharge records
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 23:27 BST (UK) »
But he is shown as an alcoholic on his pension record
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Re: Info on army discharge records
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 23:40 BST (UK) »
I'm only repeating what's written.  ;D

Funnily enough though, Sober has been underlined about ten times.  ???

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Re: Info on army discharge records
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 23:44 BST (UK) »
 :) :)
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