Completed - Thank you!!! 1901 census lookups - Robinson and Collier

[rupiezucki]

In 1899,

Elizabeth Mary Monkman COLLIER (b Loftus, reg Guisbro Dec 1876) married Spencer ROBINSON (I think b Pickering 1873).  They were married in Scarborough.

I cannot find them on the 1901 census in Yorkshire or anywhere else.

I would expect to find them somewhere in Scarborough with one or two children.

I know that they were alive at the time.

I also cannot find her uncle

Richard COLLIER b N. Frodingham (reg Driffield) 1847, his wife Jane (nee MINER) b. Oldsbury Staffs, their children Lily Elizabeth (b. Walsall, Staffs 1877), William George (b Atwick 1879), and John Richard (b Atwick 1880).  They should also be in Yorkshire ... should be farming, but one never knows.

Thanks for any help,
Holly

[jacques]

Hello Holly

Can you confirm the following

BIRTH Elizabeth Mary M Collier Dec qtr 1876 Guisborough 9d 477
MARRIAGE Elizabeth Mary M Collier Sept qtr 1899 Scarborough 9d 662
BIRTH Spencer Robinson Dec qtr 1873 Pickering 9d 411

So they should be married on 1901, cannot trace them

Did trace this one age correct place of birth correct but name not quite there.
1901 @ 50 Kings Road Wheatley Yorkshire
Fred Birchall           Head  Marr  30 Man of Brass Works Born Lance Staleybridge
Rachel Birchall       Wife             28                                 Born Scarborough
Winifred                 Dau              4                                   "      Doncaster
Eleanor                  Dau              10Months                      "      Wheatley
and
Elizabeth Monkman Sister in Law 26 Single                    2      Scarborough
Know it should be Robinson by now/
A few coincidences so though I would send it anyway.

Pam

[Sisterjane]

Hi Holly and Pam

Having just had a good look to see if I could spot then..which I cant  but I dont think the Elizabeth Monkman that Pam found is the Elizabeth you are looking for.

Looking back through the cencus here is what I found..If you want full details I will gladly post them for you

1891-Cencus-RG12/3961/14/22..Elizabeth Monkman 16 with parents

1891 Cencus-RG12/3961/12/18..Rachel Monkman (Burchill in 1901)

1881 Cencus..RG11/4716/85/63..Elizabeth and Racheal Monkman with their parents

and I think this is the family Holly is looking for

1881 Cencus-RG11/4838/80/22..Eliz. Mary M Collier with parents

1891 Cencus-RG12/3951/78/1..Elizabeth Collier with her Grandparents in Atwick

Jane

[rupiezucki]

Thank you both for your speediness ...

The birth and marriage mentioned by Pam are correct, and I believe that the birth of Spencer mentioned is our boy, but cannot be positive yet.

The Monkman connection is through Elizabeth's father, John Monkman Peacock COLLIER, whose parents were George COLLIER and Elizabeth PEACOCK (whose father was Monkman Peacock).

Jane is spot on with the family I am after.

John died shortly after the 1881 census was taken.  In 1891 the girls were living with George and Elizabeth COLLIER in Atwick, a brother, George Edwin Monkman Peacock COLLIER died in Dewsbury (1885, I think).  Their mother Catherine was living with her sister, Mary Young in Lockwood.  A sister, Isabel Beatrix, born in 1883 (do the math - cough, cough) is NOWHERE to be found in 1891 ... if you get bored you can try and find a record of her birth or where she is in 1891 ... it has already stumped many.  She emigrated with her mother in 1893 to Canada.

So, my current brick wall is to find out if I have anymore relatives that I don't know about, which is why I am looking for Elizabeth ROBINSON and her uncle Richard COLLIER (brother to JM).

My great grandmother was Elizabeth's sister, Ethel, who also emigrated to Canada.  Elizabeth came to Canada for Ethel's Golden Anniversary in the 50's, and when my mom was married in 1954, she remembers relatives from 'that side' of the family coming up from 'down south' to Geordieland. 

Completely irrelevant, I know.

I have a membership with ancestry.com, but the images are missing for 1901 in that part of Scarborough where I expect to find them (Dist 5).  Both sides of the family lived fairly close to each other, Hoxton Road and Victoria Street.  There is also an area called either Peacock or Collier Square or similar (Peacock, I think) where George COLLIER owned a couple of buildings  (this is where I expect to find the Robinsons) .  I have been unable, so far, to get ancestry to fix the image problem.  They can't even get the images up on their own computers, so I will just keep on submitting error messages and hope it gets resolved.

Mistranscriptions are so common that I am used to pulling up an entire town to try and find my lost ones, it frustrates me not to be able to get at those images.

These are the things that makes this so much fun, right?
Holly

[rupiezucki]

Elizabeth Collier, her sister Elizabeth, and Elizabeth's husband Spencer Robinson emigrated to Canada in 1899.

Thank you everyone who contributed.

Rupie

[John North]

Hello Rupiezucki. I am completely new to Rootschat. I joined c.2015 but have never used it because of "navigation problems" ie I couldn't find my way around the convoluted interfaces. Anyway, here I am again having come across your interest from 2008 (!!) in Elizabeth Collier and Spencer Robinson on an internet search (my own research interest is Spencer's family). I have made some progress with their migration to Canada, their three children and in particular what happened to Spencer 1912-19. After that nothing! Let me know if you would be interested in my research, I'm happy to share it with you. Please forgive me if I'm doing this wrongly or have violated any protocols. I'm based in Newcastle upon Tyne, England btw. Hope to hear from you. John North (great-great grandson of Spencer Robinson's grandmother).