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Alice jane
« on: Wednesday 27 August 08 18:19 BST (UK) »
hello ,
just wondering & hoping if someone can please help me ,,,cause its driving me nuts!! ;D
Alice Jane Durward  emigrated to Sydney , she joined the rest of her family .
in 1920's.....apparently she married an American ,didn't know if she married in Sydney (but i cant find her marriage on Scotlandspeople) so i take it she did marry there .   also don't know her married name to look for her death .

just wondered if anyone can find a marriage for her in Sydney please ??she was born 1890 in Scotland...i know she was alive in 1947 (when her mother died ) & Alice was 59 by then ., as its listed on mothers death certificate .

Thanks for any help or hints at all
Snowolf
"Durward"... (logie-pert, Dundee, Scotland,& Sydney ,Australia ,New Hampshire , U.S.A ).  "Johnston"..(Logie-pert, "Smith".."Arbuthnott/ monifieth/Montrose/laurencekirk , Scotland) "Kennedy"..(Dundee,Comrie) Scotland  & Australia. "Marshall"..(alloa, Clackmannanshire , Scotland). 
" Myles".. ( Scone, Perthshire , Scotland).
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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 18:33 BST (UK) »
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Alice Jane Durward  emigrated to Sydney , she joined the rest of her family


Did her mother die in Sydney?

Is just Alice's christian name listed on her mothers death cert? 

By the 1920's Alice would have been in her 30's and there is no entry for her on  www.ancestorsonboard.com under the name of Durward emigrating to Australia
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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 19:26 BST (UK) »
hello carolew,
yes her mother died in Sydney ..pennant hills (i have her death certificate )...where it has list of children  one of them is listed as Alice Jane ,but none have their surnames.
its gives Alice's age as 59 at time of her mothers death,so that would make her born in 1888 and not 1890 as a thought .
I also have her mothers arrival to Australia in April 1922....but others arrived at various years .
I got the information about Alice from a elderly aunt in Australia....maybe she's got a bitty confused ..perhaps Alice went to America ,if it was an American she married ?

Thankyou for your help
Snowolf
"Durward"... (logie-pert, Dundee, Scotland,& Sydney ,Australia ,New Hampshire , U.S.A ).  "Johnston"..(Logie-pert, "Smith".."Arbuthnott/ monifieth/Montrose/laurencekirk , Scotland) "Kennedy"..(Dundee,Comrie) Scotland  & Australia. "Marshall"..(alloa, Clackmannanshire , Scotland). 
" Myles".. ( Scone, Perthshire , Scotland).
"Edward".. (Kincardneshire ,Dundee,Scotland),  Taylor..(Garvock,Kincardineshire,Scotland) , "Young"..(Kincardineshire),Scotland.
"Robertson"..Perthshire ,Scotland)

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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 21:57 BST (UK) »
Have you tried looking in the newspaper for a death notice for her mother - it might mention her children.  I have many death notices from that time that have given me the daughters  married names.
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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

It  would also be  helpfull  if  you  could  give us  her  parents details  please

thanks Jenn
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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 22:58 BST (UK) »
I think this could be her on the 1891 Scottish census for Stracathro Angus transcribed as Dutward

Weterton Cottage

William 30  farm servant b Marykirk, Kincardine
Jane  29  b Fordoun, Kincardine
Mary Ann  4  b Cyrus Kincardine
Alice J 3  b Cyrus Kincardine
Isabella S  1  Stracathro, Forfarshire
Stracathro; ED: 1; Page:  7




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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 23:07 BST (UK) »
1901 census for Lethnot and Navar   Angus 

Address Drumfuris - all surname Durward

William Durward 40  b Marykirk, Kincardine ag labourer on garm
Jane  39   b Fordoun, Kincardine
Mary Ann  14   b Cyrus Kincardine
Alice Jane  12   b Cyrus Kincardine
Isabella Smith  11  b Stracathro, Forfarshire
William   9  b Stracathro, Forfarshire
George   7  b Stracathro, Forfarshire
John Cobb 4  b Stracathro, Forfarshire
Philis   1  b Lethnot, Forfarshire
Lethnot and Navar; ED: 1; Page:  4

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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 23:30 BST (UK) »
I wonder if  she married prior to coming to Australia?

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nswsdps/dpsindex.htm

If Snowolf has the mothers actual date of death  she could no doubt contact the Ryerson and ask for a lookup of the death or funeral notice  that could very well shed some light on  her married names (as Meggles suggests)
Jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Alice jane
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 23:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

See my reply above - Her mother emigrated in 1922 when she was turned 60yrs old and I also thought it was more likely that Alice married in Scotland if she emigrated after her mother

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By the 1920's Alice would have been in her 30's and there is no entry for her on  www.ancestorsonboard.com under the name of Durward emigrating to Australia
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)