Closest to Kippen?

[McCann]

I am looking for a death entry on SP for Mary McFarlane (McFarlen).  She was in Kippen, Stirlingshire during the 1861 census at age 64 (she was also listed in Kippen in 1841 and 1851).  So I am looking for her death in Stirling.

There are a few possible entries and before I spend the time and money searching all, I would like to get an opinion on the best place to start, perhaps the closest place to Kippen.  The possibilities are:  Kilsyth, Stirling, Campsie, Buchanan, Falkirk Burgh, Balfron, and Bannockburn.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.
McCann

[kimby392]

hi,

i am trying to find info on a peter mcfarlane born buchlyvie 1876, his mother was jane campbell but there is no info on his father.  could this be a relation?

Kim

[apanderson]

Hi McCann,

Did you ever find Mary's Death certificate?

By doing a free search on Scotland's People, and entering the search criteria as follows:

Surname: M*cfarlan*
Forename: Mary
Uncheck the 'All Forenames beginning with same characters
Other Surnames: Blank
Mother's Maiden name: Blank
Check Unrecorded mother's name
Sex: Female
Year Range 1861 - 1891
Age Range 64 - 95
Birth Year: 1797 +/- 5 years
County/City/Minor Records: Stirling
District: Kippen

There is only one death of a Mary M*cFarlan*

I don't have any SP Credits at the moment to have a look at the certificate, but I would imagine it would be worth downloading!

Anne

[apanderson]

Hi Kim,

I had a look at the 1881 Cencus and that confirms the info you already have.

Living at Street House, Kippen

Jane Campbell, Head, Unmarried, Age 40, No Occupation, Born Buchlyvie
Peter McFarlane, Son, Age 5, Scholar, born Buchlyvie.

Anne

[McCann]

kimby392:
I dont know if there is a relation for certain, but I do have Peters in the line.  However, I dont have much on McFarlane.  Mary McFarlane has children with James McArthur (but his d.c. says unmarried).  They have a son Peter, but he took the name McArthur and so on down the line.  I dont have anything on Mary McFarlane's parents.  However, I am told by RC members that Kippen was quite a small place back then and so the likelihood that there is a connection is pretty great.

I'll let you know if I come up with any additional information on Mary or her parents, siblings, etc.

Also,a while ago I came across the Balfron Heritage site and mentioned to the secretary my family names, McFarlane, McArthur and McLean.  She helped me find a McLean and said that all of those names exist still in the area today.  Her name is Pat Thomson, the Balfron Heritage Society, her email was info {--at--} balfronheritage.org.uk.  Its worth a look.  Perhaps she has some family info for you.   Let me know how you do.

Anne:  No, I did not find her death certificate yet and am also out of credits.  But next time I'm on SP I will certainly do that search and order the result.  I'll let you all know how it goes.  Thank you for the info and interest.

All the best.
McCann


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[kimby392]

hi every one, thank for the help, i have emailed the balfron heritage group and they are doing a search for me, i live in buchlyvie the village next to kippen and balfron so i might just head over and have a look.  i have just found in that peter (illigitemate) was born 1875 mother jane, in 1881 age 4 he was staying with a family called cumming in dunblane he was the stepson born buchlyvie, and again in 1881 aged 5 he was back in buchlyvie mother jane. Peter died 1969 aged 93. still no news on the father, jane also had a john and jane morrison (father unknown) and a benjamin downie(father unknown) but in the kippen register they are all called campbell.

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thanks again

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[McCann]

Kim:
I have quite a few family members who are from either Kippen or Buchlyvie.  Perhaps you can keep them in mind when doing your own search - maybe we will find a connection; or if you have extra time and can do a search for me I would greatly appreciate it.

1.  John McLean (gg gf):  All info says he was born in "Kippen, Buchlyvie, Stirlingshire" in 1852-1854, but I have been unable to find his birth certificate.  (Parents are Alexander and Jane/t).

2.  Alexander McLean (John's father) was born in Balfron in 1818-1820, but I have been unable to find his birth certificate.  His mother was Catherine McLean, but fater is unknown.

3.  Jane/t McArthur (John's mother) was born in Balfron 1816-1818, but again I cannot find her birth certificate.  Her parents were James McArthur and Mary McFarlane (which we already discussed).

4.  James McArthur was born in Kippen in 1791 and died in Kippen on August 22,1866.  I have these entries.  Again it says he was unmarried at death but he had children with Mary McFarlane.   His parents were John McArthur and Ann Yuille.

5.  Mary McFarlane was born in Lanark in around 1791-1797, but I have her in Kippen cenus info in 1841-1861.  Other names in the household were McLean, Johnston and Marrdwie.  She likely died in Kippen between 1861 and 1889 but I have been unable to find her death entry.   Perhaps if I can find her death entry, we will be able to connect to your Peter McFarlane eventually. 

I'm sorry to bombard you with all of that information, but the idea that you live in Buchlyvie and are near to Kippen is exciting to me, especially considering that the towns were relatively small back then.  What is it like where you live?

Regards.
McCann

[McCann]

Anne:
By the way, I did check that search.  I had actually already purchased that entry.  I previously discounted it because it had Mary McFarlane, maiden name McDonald - widow of Andrew McFarlane so I didn't think it could be her.  But if Andrew was her first husband and James McArthur was her "unmarried second husband" with whom she had her children it could still be possble.  Does that sound right?  or am I over-thinking it?

But...  I have a list of 7 other Mary's (McFarlane) that can still work - so I am back at a stand still I think.

Once again, thank you for your input and makig me think twice.
McCann

[elaine447]

Hi McCann
I have been looking for the connection with the McLean's and the Given/Govan's
I have came across another couple of marriages for the Given family were
the witness was a McLean once I sort them I will send them to you
I dont know if you have found these
children for Alexander McLean and Jane McArthur on IGI
Mary McLean 5th Nov 1856  Clyde Glasgow
Donald McLean 11th April 1859 Anderston Glasgow
Donald McLean 1st Feb 1864 Tradeston
can't see Janet  born to them
Elaine