Phineas Wornham

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Marriage

Jul/Aug/Sep 1874
Godstone

Henry Wornham to Mary Ann Stacey

I am wondering where Phineas comes into this at all...

[avm228]

Marriage

Jul/Aug/Sep 1874
Godstone

Henry Wornham to Mary Ann Stacey

I am wondering where Phineas comes into this at all...

Most odd! He's "Pheneas" in 1881:

RG11/1055/59/11

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Interesting - so they had made the move to FLetching by 1881 then.

Really strange, because this is before Ernest is born - he has father Henry, and after Phoebe is born and she has father Henry.

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I'm wondering whether "Pheneas" in 1881 was an alias for Henry, who for some reason didn't want to give the "authorities" his real name. 

I can't easily find either Henry or Phineas in 1861.

In 1871 I see a Henry "Warman" (possibly "Worman") boarding at racing stables in Portslade, Sussex who is a stableman - same occupation as "Pheneas" had in 1881.  Possibly some connection?  At 25 he is exactly between the respective ages of Henry and Phineas Wornham:  RG10/1093/25/42.

Anna

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There is a death:

Jul/Aug/Sep 1912
Newhaven Sussex 2b 204
Henry Wornham age 67

May be a red herring or may be Henry, brother of Phineas, or maybe Phineas known as henry.....

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I'm wondering whether "Pheneas" in 1881 was an alias for Henry, who for some reason didn't want to give the "authorities" his real name. 

but we know Phineas did exist

IGI
christening
31 Jan 1847
St Nicholas Brighton
Phineas Wornham
son of henry and Jane

plus both Phineas and Henry with parents (Henry and Jane) in 1851, as you found earlier.

[toni*]

presumably you have his birth

Births Mar 1847   
 
Wornham  Phineas    Brighton  7  (no pg no. )


the trouble is if he changed his name there are no regsiters of same, and even if he didnt do it offically  anyone can call themselves anything as long as its not for (Illegal i.e. fraudlent purposes

[avm228]

I know Phineas existed, and we know he co-existed with his brother Henry because I found them together with their parents in 1851, as above.

But the only connection we know of between Phineas and the Mary Ann/Minnie/Phoebe/Ernest family is the 1881 census.  The marriage and baptisms for that family show the man of that family consistently as Henry.  So I'm wondering whether in 1881 "Pheneas" was really Henry giving a false name for some reason (and the false name which came to his mind was that of his brother Phineas).

Anna

[toni*]

maybe Henry was just a shortened verison of Phenias i.e that whats he went by
the Hen is there inhis name 
do you have any of the childrens birth certs naming Phenias as father like Minnie ?