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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #9 on: Friday 05 September 08 09:11 BST (UK) »
Lynda

Is Mary Jane b. 1883 'Granny'? I'm just trying to get an idea of time-frame and people's ages/birth years? If so, do you have a list of her children from her subsequent marriage - any clues there on the names?

The cousin Dorian/Dorigan was a cousin to Granny?

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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 September 08 09:16 BST (UK) »
Looking at your other post www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,323247.0.html - did you check whether the marriage found for a Mary Jane Snr was the correct one?

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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 September 08 09:20 BST (UK) »
Is this Mary Jane Snr. birth entry:

MARY JANE MACKIE Born 18 NOV 1870 Edinburgh
Parents: Father:     MACKIE and MARY MACKIE

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ADDED: Can't be the right birth  :P - would make her 13 years old when Mary Jane Jnr was born!
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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 September 08 09:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thats what we are working on.... not easy though as Mary Jane senior disappears... Looks like Mary Jane was her first child in 1883.  Then in 1885 she had Bridget.  Our cousin said that there were brothers, Peter and Tommy and a sister Annie.  They were McLaughlans.  However when I have done searches for them, Bridget is in an orphanage in Edinburgh, but the DOB does not tie in.  Mary Jane was sent away to Aberdeen until she grew up and went into service in Aberdeen.  I then got a Mary Jane McLaughlan (the mother) and Bridget in stirling in the 1901 census.  However, the story now is that the family split up when their parents died. I don't know where the boys are or what happened to them. Certainly on the marriage cert for Mary Jane 1883, she has stated that her parents are dead.  Her last surviving son died in January this year aged 87 and he had given me a photo a few months earlier of an older woman, younger woman and two girls.  Now I have had these pictures all over and shown them to people and a photo of Mary Jane 1883, and the resemblance between the older woman and the photo of Mary Jane 1883 is striking.

The names I was given on Tuesday are, Meechan and Duncan Kelly.  Believed that Annie married both these men.  Apparently she was found at the bottom of some stairs. This was apparently somewhere in Fife. When Uncle Frankie spoke of this he said that she had been murdered.....
There was a Tommy McKay who married an Annie, who was a cousin to Mary Jane, 1883.  There are links to Dundee through the Mackay family 

The piggery and shops in the Grassmarket.  And the name Dorian/Dorigan. 

The whole story has been fairly complicated and confusing and has taken a long time to sort out.

Mary Jane married a Francis McGoohan/McGoochan in 1904.  Tracing the McGoohans was difficult as they have come from Ireland and we have got no further back the the Gt Grandparents.  Part of the reason for this was their illiteracy and their marriage was registered under the name Mcgowan in 1858.  So there is a part of me wonders if they are Mcgoohans or McGowans.  Thick Irish accent and all that.  But on the marriage certificate it says that one of the Maiden surnames of the parents were Dorigan/Dorian, or that is how it transcribes...... So many mysteries, and no answers...

So this is where I am, and I have spent most of this summer working on this, gathering as much information before anyone else dies and trying to work my way through it.

Thank you so much for all your help... new eyes sometimes help resolve the mysteries

Kind regards,

Lynda
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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #13 on: Friday 05 September 08 10:03 BST (UK) »
Oh and I forgot to say, no-one ever spoke of Bridget as she commited suicide and the family were RC.  So I will need to look at this when I put credits on SP next week.

Lynda
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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #14 on: Friday 05 September 08 10:09 BST (UK) »
Phew! No wonder you are going round in circles!!

Now...I think this is Mary Jane Snr with husband John McLaughlan (and its many transcriptions  ::)) in 1891:

John McGlachine 40, porter, b. Ireland
Jane McGlachtein 37, b. Edinburgh ( c. 1854)
John McGlachtein 14, b. Edinburgh
Annie McGlachtein 11, Edinburgh
Mary McGlachtein 8, Edinburgh
Bridget McGlachtein 5, Edinburgh
Helen McGlachtein 2

Address: 133 West Port, St George Burgh, Edinburgh St Cuthberts

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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #15 on: Friday 05 September 08 10:13 BST (UK) »
You think..... oooooo I do hope so, that means that Mary Jane was with them in 1891.   I will see what I can do with this info.. Thank you so much

Kind regards,
Lynda
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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #16 on: Friday 05 September 08 10:21 BST (UK) »
And Mary Jane 1883 was born in the 75 West Port, and Bridget was born at 32 Grassmarket, which is only about 500 yards apart.  Trying to think where 133 West Port is now...

Thank you for this

Regards,
Lynda
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Re: Grassmarket Edinburgh
« Reply #17 on: Friday 05 September 08 10:37 BST (UK) »
I think it would be on the right hand side as you go up the hill from the grassmarket, between Lady Lawson Street and Spittle Street.

Kirsty


Edit: The West Port Newsagent is 139 so just a few doors down from there.
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