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Drowned at Sea
« on: Tuesday 09 September 08 07:35 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Can anyone living in the eastern part of Fife give me information on the drowning of a seaman on the "Mary". The drowning occurred just off the Bass Rock in the Firth of Forth on the 27th February, 1849.

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Tom.

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 08:31 BST (UK) »
Tom, You write:
Hi,
Can anyone living in the eastern part of Fife give me information on the drowning of a seaman on the "Mary". The drowning occurred just off the Bass Rock in the Firth of Forth on the 27th February, 1849.
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You seem to know the date, place and ship?

What further information are you seeking?

Do you have the name of the seaman?  That would surely help ...

JAP

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 09:19 BST (UK) »


I wrote "Can anyone living in the eastern part of Fife give me information ........" Since the State of Victoria in Australia is a long way from Fife, and it has been admitted that you know little about this part of Scotland, why your interest?

Tom.

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:06 BST (UK) »
Tom,

This is a public genealogical forum/message board.  As has been explained to you many many times over many many months.

As has been explained over and over, it should never be for you to decide who shall be allowed to post on any thread which you have started, or have posted on - or for you to decide where respondents on such threads may come from or ...

Any RootsChatter at all - totally regardless of where they live - should be free to post on any thread on a public genealogical forum/message board such as RootsChat.

I hope that the Moderators and Administrators of RC agree with this.

All members of RootsChat should be free to comment and post on any thread whatsoever.

If that's not the case then RootsChat has a real problem.

My interest is that I believe that I can help people such as yourself or others who post on RC.  Where I live is irrelevant.  What I know and what I have to offer in knowledge and logical analysis and questions are what is important.

The questions I posed above are important and I trust that you will answer them.

Regards,

JAP
PS: Unlike you (it seems), I do NOT live in the State of Victoria in Australia  :)


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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:15 BST (UK) »
Excuse me for butting in here......

Tom,

Do you think that any extra information can only be provided by someone living in Fife?  What if someone related to the poor unfortunate seaman reads this and can give you extra information, but lives in New Zealand - should that be discounted?  Please realise that genuine information can sometimes come from the most unexpected source.

The incident which you write about occurred on a ship with a common female name.  If anyone were searching the newspaper reports of the time, they might have great difficulty in refining the search parameters to get to the useful information.  Do you know the man's name?  If so, it would be really helpful if you shared it with people.  Have you already got a newspaper report or something?

This is trying to help here.

Nell

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:21 BST (UK) »
Tom

to help you we need to establish a few things first

the mans name would be a great help, to enable us to search for him

if you contact the Local RO to the area or look on the Gale site (online) at the british newspapers section these might yeid extra information for you

but without a name it looks as if you have found the details most of us would be able to provide. i.e. shhips name date and place.

JAP is right this is a public forum and if you post on here any member of the public may reply, they do it to help you not to hinder you and seeing as the even took place in 1849 DPA don't apply.
if you you liked you could have locked this topic then no-one could have replied to you

good luck with your search




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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Toni

You are very kind to attempt to help. I have tried in the past as well, but it always appears that Tom knows the answer to his questions.  I find this very confusing.

Whenever I mention my confusion, my posts get deleted. I find that confusing too - because I don't delete them

Trish

PS I would suggest LLoyds of London may be a good place to look. They seem to have lists of most ship wrecks since whenever - but maybe that is where the original information came from.   ???


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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish
luckily we can choose who to help
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if Tom already knows the answers i don't see the point of his posts  :-\

Perhaps the ship wasn't wrecked
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Toni

This is a tombstone I photographed of one of my family members who drowned at sea. Perhaps Tom has a picture of the grave of his person that he would like to share. Maybe the date and ship name came from an MI

Trish
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