hi monica
the 3 kids all list elizabeth as the mother but there is no record of their marriage?? well on the gros that is but someone said to me to be careful with gros and scotlands people !!because not every parish submitted their books so we are going to chase up the minister in rhynie to see if all their books were put to edinburgh.
we spoke to a dougie hay from canada who's father was the last of seven adam hays of glenbucket(upperton farm) who said the father of the first adam was john hay who is listed in the 1696 poll book living with his wife , and we know in the area there was only 2 hay familys both connected the other family was william hay with wife and son.
and we know "genetically" we are connected to 2 people with adam hay of glenbucket, and it's all too easy to find someone about the right time area and claim them but thats not our thing, but it's really frustrating not getting charles birth or marriage.
the adam name through us a bit as our naming convention always seems to be james/john/charles and as some did have 8/9 sons back then their secondry names were andrew/peter/william/alexander so adam might be a close link with common grandfather in the 1650-1730 or there abouts.
we know there was a legal requirement to register births marriages then but there was no real enforcement in place so he may have slipped through the net, hopefully not,
we are chasing up farm records as well, as even the national archives said a lot of farm houses are keeping hold of the records going back to the 1600's the big players records are archived i.e duke of gordon/earl of fife but the farmers themselves sometimes wont let go of their records
