Ogram Burkes

[sambez]

Hi there

I have recently discovered that my great grandfather was a showman in 1899 and my grandma was born at trafford road fairground in salford.  I would love to look into this further as it has come as a surprise to me as i had no idea at all.  I have contacted the National Fairground Archives who cannot find the surname in their records so I am at a loss as to how to research this side.  Any help or advice would be gratefully apreciated.

thank you


samantha

[lizdb]

Do you have your grandma's birth cert? I think that would be the place to start.

[sambez]

hi there

Yes i have my grandmas birth certificate- this is how i discovered her fathers occupation and that she was born at trafford rd fairground.


samantha

[lizdb]

So - that was 1899 then? what was her mum's name and what was her name - then we might be able to find them in 1901 census.

[sambez]

Hi Thanks for the help.

My grandmas name was ELiza Ann Burkes born 12 Jan 1899 and her mum was Eliza Ann Burkes (formerly Seed). I can find her mum on censuses (1891,1881), before she married Ogram in 1894 but can find nothing on the 1901 census for any of them.

 i have a feeling the fairground connection comes via the Seed line as I have come across quite a few in my research and the names tie in with the census returns i have found, they have her father John Seed as a general dealer in fancy goods.  just waiting for Eliza Ann Seed's birth certificate to come to confirm that john seed was her father.


Samantha

[deb usa]

Hi

I have found this ....

1901
Sheffield, Owlerton St John the Baptist
109 Holm Lane
John Whittington head mar 74 Circus proprietor (employer) b Manchester
Sarah Whittington wife 66 b London
Sarah Grinderley?? 17 granddaughter b Rotherham
/
Henry Biston mar 27 circus van traveller (worker) b Eckington, Derby
Ellen wife mar 24 b Eckington
Obram BURTES (looks like Burks on original) mar 28 circus van traveller/exhib (worker) b Yorks, Leeds
Eliza wife 24 circus van traveller b Huddersfield
ELIZA 2  b Yorks. Leeds
Harry Riston 3 b Derby, Cockington
Thomas Liney single 25 b Sheffield  circus van traveller exhib
John A Linney single 22 b     "                 "       "           "
James Booth  26             b Yorks  Ripponden    "           "
George thomas 34         b Leeds                      "           "
Alfred Roads 26             b  Birmingham             "          "

deb

[lizdb]

Well done Deb!

Marriage:
Jul/Aug/Sep 1894
Huddersfield
ref 9a 630

Ogram Burkes
also on page Eliza Ann Seed

marriage cert will give his dads name (hopefully)

[deb usa]

hi again
 

1891
Lancashire , Parr...transcribed under BURKER ...def Burkes
a Caravan , Dudley Street
William Burkes head mar 34 44 travelling showman b Yorks huggate
OGRAM son 17 travelling showman b Leeds
 Thomas w son 15 travelling showman b Leeds
There are a whole lot travelling together

ref; RG12/3024 Fol 78 p 73

deb

[lizdb]

Birth:

Oct/Nov/Dec 1873
Hunslet reg district
ref 9b 298
Ogram Birks