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CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« on: Thursday 16 October 08 13:40 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me please with the following:

I believe HARRY CARTER (b in the UK) was killed in Melbourne in the early 1920's.   There is a possible link to St. Kilda's, but I've found nothing on that cemetery site.

I shall be over in Melbourne in two weeks' time and would very much like to try and find Harry's grave so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks, Suzi

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 October 08 21:53 BST (UK) »
Suzi, can you help out with parents' names, or age......it would make it considerably easier when checking the death index, as there are a few possibilities.......


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 October 08 21:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks for responding to my request.   I have now discovered the following:

Harry was in fact named Henry (possibly Stephen or Stephenson) at birth.   He was born in Chertsey (UK) September quarter of 1882.

In the 1891 UK census he was living in Warfield, Berkshire and his birthplace is given as Windlesham, Surrey (which isn't too far away from Chertsey!) with his parents John William and Mary Ann Carter.

Harry/Henry was crushed to death between the wharf and a ship having fallen overboard at Melbourne Docks.   It was possibly a merchant ship sailing between Australia and the UK.

Any help you can give would be very much appreciated.   Thanks.

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 October 08 22:43 BST (UK) »
Dee would there have been an inquest into his death? 

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 October 08 10:57 BST (UK) »
No inquest, no death that I can see.

Now I'm wondering....was he a seaman if he fell overboard? In which case would his death have been registered as at sea?


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 October 08 11:43 BST (UK) »
Checked the Marine Deaths.....couldn't see him there either....

He's a puzzle......  :-\
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 October 08 12:17 BST (UK) »
My information is really limited ~ hence all the blanks!!  I think he must have been a seaman, yes and travelled the route often.

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Tapster/Hertford
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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 October 08 12:25 BST (UK) »
I have trawled all the H CARTER deaths in the 1920s and early 1930s and can't seen anything that matches with his date of birth.

Do you have any other evidence other than oral history?

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Cando

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Re: CARTER ~ Vic. death look-up please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 October 08 12:29 BST (UK) »
Oh thank you ~ you are kind.

No. I haven't any other information at all.   Because he was killed in Melbourne, the natural assumption was that there should be a record of some sort, and that he was buried there.

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Brook/Sussex
Danaher/Ireland and London 
Dent/London 
Dorr/Norfolk and London 
Holmes/Kent and London
Isham/Northampton 
Sargent/London
Sears/Middlesex 
Speller/Essex and London 
Stiles/Styles/Wiltshire and London 
Tapster/Hertford
Ward/London 
Watson/Essex

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