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Angelina MOWER born 1829 - Bury
« on: Friday 17 October 08 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I now think that Angelina's mother was called Sophia.  Both Angelina and Sophia were born in Bury, Suffolk?  Is there anyone who could check the Bury Parish Records for a baptism for Angelina Mower? She was born around 1829.  I think the father maybe called Frederick Mower, but this is what I am trying to find out.

Please help.

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I have details for Angelina Mower born about 1829 Bury, Suffolk.  She married an Ebenezer Serjeant and then lived in Ipswich.

I have a copy of her marriage certificate to Ebenezer and it states her father's name and occupation.

He was Frederick Mower and a carpenter and was living in Ipswich in 1846.

I cannot find any details on census or anything of a Frederick Mower.  There are 2 on the familysearch site with birth's around the right time, but one is from London, the other from Devon.  I cannot find a census for 1841 for him or for Angelina Mower (this is the only census I have missing for her).  I've tried various spellings of Mower and Frederick. 

Could anyone help me?

I would love to know details of him (census) and his wife's name.

Thank you

Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Help Please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 October 08 16:28 BST (UK) »
at first pass thru indeed a mystery !

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He was Frederick Mower and a carpenter and was living in Ipswich in 1846.

are you basing his 1846 whereabouts on a Marriage Cert - even if it didnt say deceased, he may have been ...

strange theres no sign of them in 1841 !  and in fact the forename Ang*[elina] born +/- 5 years Bury doesnt produce hits at all for me ...

In which census does she state Bury as her PoB ?

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Help Please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 October 08 16:32 BST (UK) »
I cant find Angelina on the 1841 census - before even thinking about the father she named on her marriage cert! There are several Angelina's in Suffolk, but none looking like Mower. So there is always a chance that George had died and her mum remarried and she is recorded under a different name, or some other such scenario.
Who are the witnesses on the marriage? have you got her in all the censuses after her marriage (just in case a rellie helpfully comes to stay over census night)?

hi Newf - we are working on the same lines again - tho' I got lots of Angelinas in Suffolk!!!!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 October 08 16:33 BST (UK) »
I think Angelina is here in 1841.

HO107/685/21 = Marylebone, St. Pancras
Folio 20, Page 34.

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 October 08 16:38 BST (UK) »
Good one.
well done!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 October 08 16:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thank you for all your replies and help, this is much appreciated.

I have a copy of the marriage certificate for Angelina Mower who married Ebenezer Serjeant on the 13th August 1846 in Ipswich.

Her father was Frederick Mower a carpenter.  He may well have been deceased by this time. 

The witnesses were Hannah Serjeant (Ebenezer's mother) and a William Read who I've no idea is.

I have copies of census from 1851 onwards, when she was married , but the 1841 missing.

I've just noticed your post on an Angelina Nuwer in Marleybone?  How do I find this information and do you think it could be her?

Sorry if I'm not much help.

Thanks again

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Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 October 08 16:57 BST (UK) »
Lordy, they took some flushing out in 1851 - hats off to you for that !

 
Conn Gelean Sergent 23  Married born Bury
James Sergent 2  son

was Ebenezer the 25 year old Coach Maker up in Derbyshire ?


anyways, looks like you might have a result from Sue !
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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 October 08 17:31 BST (UK) »
Yes Ebenezer was the coach maker in Derbyshire (not sure why he went there though). 

Do you all think that Angelina Nuwer in Marylebone is Angelina Mower from Ipswich?

Just wondering what she was doing in London?  There is a Frederick Mower who was born in London somewhere.. I wonder if it is him?

Anymore help on finding Frederick Mower is much appreciated.

Thank you
Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 October 08 17:37 BST (UK) »
it cant be said for certain, but all the indications are good - 'Not born in County', age etc - and the name is somewhat unique at that time.

Its not been possible (in the 1841) to tell if Fred was still around tho - and link to that family group...... have you looked for deaths ?
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