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Hiser....COMPLETED WITH THANKS
« on: Monday 20 October 08 17:17 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am trying to help someone with a start on their family tree

By chance, I found a gravestone in Linthorpe Cemetery today with the family name Hiser, it lists three children and both parents.

So in 1881 I find the family Frederick Hiser in Middlesbrough with his wife Susannah and family, listed also are John Milber and Peter Milber as two son in laws  ::) aged 12 and 10 RG 11 4853 72 22
1891 RG 12 4009 36 23, Frederick and Susannah are together, Frederick Hiser dies 1899 in Middlesbrough, 1901 Susannah is with another son Charles.
On the 1871 I can see Susannah Melbor with husband Fred and two children John 2 and Peter 4 months RG 10 4891 90 27,  so I am right in thinking Susannah married twice and both times to a Frederick, one a Mellor/Melbur/Milber and then a second time to a Frederick Hiser???

On Middlesbrough Indexes I see a marriage for Frederick Hiser to Susannah Mellor, but I cannot see a Melbor/Meller marriage anywhere, I think I have looked too long.

If anyone can help with this problem or throw some light on to it I would be very grateful. 

Am I reading it correctly or barking up the wrong family tree  :)

Many thanks for reading

Jane

LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE,
LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT
MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE
LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY
BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY  - JEFFELS
LIVERPOOL - GANDER
SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON
BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON
BROUGHTON - HARRISON
MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER
PINCHINTHORPE -  POSTGATE
BILSDALE- BOYES


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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:25 BST (UK) »
Possible birth & death for Peter:

Birth:

George Peter MELBER Dec 1870 Stockton 10a 62

Death:

George Peter MELBER aged 12, Dec 1882 Middlesbrough 9d 356


Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:28 BST (UK) »
Possible birth & death for John:

Birth

John Frederick MELBER Jun 1869 Stockton 10a 70

Death

John Frederick MELBER aged 10, Dec 1881 Middlesbrough 9d 376


Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:32 BST (UK) »
Fred & Susanna's surname is enumerated as Melbar in 1871.  Both give their respective birthplaces as Germany.

The same is true for George & Rose Melbar, two doors down on the same page.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:32 BST (UK) »
Oh thanks sop much for that - sad that they died so young  :'(

I would love to see if I can find her previous marriage to the first Fred, I can see a certificate may be the only way

Thank you so much for your help ;D

jane



LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE,
LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT
MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE
LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY
BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY  - JEFFELS
LIVERPOOL - GANDER
SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON
BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON
BROUGHTON - HARRISON
MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER
PINCHINTHORPE -  POSTGATE
BILSDALE- BOYES


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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:36 BST (UK) »

On Middlesbrough Indexes I see a marriage for Frederick Hiser to Susannah Mellor, but I cannot see a Melbor/Meller marriage anywhere, I think I have looked too long.


FreeBMD has this marriage as follows:

Marriage Dec 1872
 
HISER  Frederick   
MELBER  Susannah     

Stockton  10a 267

"Mellor" on the record you found is likely to be a mistranscription/red herring.

If Fred & Susanna were both born in Germany they have married there & not in England.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:39 BST (UK) »
This is going to be a puzzle I can see, strange thing, my mum has a friend with a family name Melba, makes me wonder if they is any connection, as the name changes over the years so much.

I cannot thank you enough for the help, new eyes you see  8)

Jane
LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE,
LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT
MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE
LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY
BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY  - JEFFELS
LIVERPOOL - GANDER
SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON
BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON
BROUGHTON - HARRISON
MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER
PINCHINTHORPE -  POSTGATE
BILSDALE- BOYES


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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:44 BST (UK) »
They did marry here, after all :):

Marriage Sep 1868   

Ford  Susannah     
Melber  Friedrick     

Stockton  10a 51


Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Hiser....
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:48 BST (UK) »
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thank you so much,  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Ford do you think thats sounds German?? I wonder if it has be anglicised ??

Avm228 go pour yourself a large drink  ;) :-*


Jane
LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE,
LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT
MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE
LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY
BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY  - JEFFELS
LIVERPOOL - GANDER
SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON
BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON
BROUGHTON - HARRISON
MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER
PINCHINTHORPE -  POSTGATE
BILSDALE- BOYES


Cenusu informations is from crown copyright
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