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Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« on: Monday 03 November 08 03:05 GMT (UK) »
Please help me find information re my Great Grandmother "Margaret Gracey Brown Hill. The information I have is as follows:

Birth: 20 Nov. 1865 Belfast Ireland; Parents - John Gracey, Mary Murray
Marriage:  William Thomas Brown 1885;  Belfast Ireland
Children:  Stephen Brown (my Grandfather),  Eliza Brown (both born in Belfast)
Widowed
Witness to Stephen Brown's marriage to Jessie May Ellacott, 1910 Quebec City
Marriage:  John Hill 1911, Toronto, ON
 
Any help with the Toronto connection or with a death record would be greatly appreciated.

Barb
BROWN, Antrim, Ontario; GRACEY, Antrim; ELLACOTT, Devon, Ontario; GAY, Devon; BROOK, Devon; HATCH, Devon; CAMPBELL, Ontario & Scotland; WOOD,Ontario & Scotland; MCPHERSON, Moray, Inverness, Banffshire, Ontario; GUNN, Durham, Sutherland, Ontario; MCINTOSH, Moray; BROWN, Sutherland; MCDONALD, Inverness, INNES, Moray;
MCKAY, Sutherland; WILSON, Scotland

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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 November 08 03:44 GMT (UK) »
You may already have this, but I thought I would put it here to see if it could help.

Attestation Papers - Stephen Brown
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc001/266437a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc001/266437b.gif

Here are some links to the Toronto Directories. The pdf version would be the best, but they are large files.

Toronto Directories
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=toronto%20directories

I will check to see if they announced their marriage in the paper.

Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 November 08 03:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Janice;

I already have copies of Stephen's Millitary records.  Thank you. 
The family information has been scarce as Jessie (his first wife, my grand mother) died when Dad was 4,  and he was raised by his maternal family.

It was a surprize to find Margaret had come to Canada. 

I will start checking the Toronto Directory.  I didn realize it was on line. 

Barb
BROWN, Antrim, Ontario; GRACEY, Antrim; ELLACOTT, Devon, Ontario; GAY, Devon; BROOK, Devon; HATCH, Devon; CAMPBELL, Ontario & Scotland; WOOD,Ontario & Scotland; MCPHERSON, Moray, Inverness, Banffshire, Ontario; GUNN, Durham, Sutherland, Ontario; MCINTOSH, Moray; BROWN, Sutherland; MCDONALD, Inverness, INNES, Moray;
MCKAY, Sutherland; WILSON, Scotland

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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 November 08 04:25 GMT (UK) »
Janice:

Thank you for your help.  I was able to download the Toronto directories for 1912 and 1913.  But I was unable to locate them at the address shown on the 1911 census ( 85 Denison Ave, Toronto).  With all the John Hill listings, I was unable to discover if they were still in Toronto.  Also I has no luck with searching Ancestry for a Death record for either Margaret or John.

Well I will keep plugging away at it.

Again, thanks for your suggestions.

Barbara
BROWN, Antrim, Ontario; GRACEY, Antrim; ELLACOTT, Devon, Ontario; GAY, Devon; BROOK, Devon; HATCH, Devon; CAMPBELL, Ontario & Scotland; WOOD,Ontario & Scotland; MCPHERSON, Moray, Inverness, Banffshire, Ontario; GUNN, Durham, Sutherland, Ontario; MCINTOSH, Moray; BROWN, Sutherland; MCDONALD, Inverness, INNES, Moray;
MCKAY, Sutherland; WILSON, Scotland


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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 November 08 05:38 GMT (UK) »
Barbara,

Do you have any idea at all when she may have died? If so, I can check the Toronto Star to see if they put a notice in.

Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janice:

Again thanks for your help.

I have no idea at all when Margaret died.  I still have an Aunt living in the Vancouver area( Dad's half-sister).  I will try to contact her.  I know that she said when she was young, they had no contact with her Father's family at all. So I am thinking Margaret may have passed away before they were born or shortly after.  It is also possible that Margaret could have moved to BC. So I will start some researching there.

I do appreciate all that you've done so far.

Barbara
BROWN, Antrim, Ontario; GRACEY, Antrim; ELLACOTT, Devon, Ontario; GAY, Devon; BROOK, Devon; HATCH, Devon; CAMPBELL, Ontario & Scotland; WOOD,Ontario & Scotland; MCPHERSON, Moray, Inverness, Banffshire, Ontario; GUNN, Durham, Sutherland, Ontario; MCINTOSH, Moray; BROWN, Sutherland; MCDONALD, Inverness, INNES, Moray;
MCKAY, Sutherland; WILSON, Scotland

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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 November 08 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barb, have you found their date of arrival in Canada, I have tried matching combinations of the brown's on www.findmypast.com/passengerList  and find difficulty with all! perhaps they travelled in groups, do you know their first inclusion in Canadian Census after say 1881?
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Re: Margaret Gracey Brown Hill; in Toronto ON
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 November 08 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim:

Good to here from you again. 

From the 1911 Canadian census, I learned that she arrived in 1907.
John Hill is shown to have arrived that year also.  But I don't know if they came over together.

I have Stephen Brown arriving in 1908 according to his Army record.  But I have't found anything for his sister Eliza( Elizabeth).

If you find anything, it would be greatly appreciated.

Barbara
BROWN, Antrim, Ontario; GRACEY, Antrim; ELLACOTT, Devon, Ontario; GAY, Devon; BROOK, Devon; HATCH, Devon; CAMPBELL, Ontario & Scotland; WOOD,Ontario & Scotland; MCPHERSON, Moray, Inverness, Banffshire, Ontario; GUNN, Durham, Sutherland, Ontario; MCINTOSH, Moray; BROWN, Sutherland; MCDONALD, Inverness, INNES, Moray;
MCKAY, Sutherland; WILSON, Scotland