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Which 'Mob'??
« on: Monday 10 November 08 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
My great uncle Sid from Hackney, London served in the Army during the Second War.
Can anyone identify from the cap badge which regiment he was in please??.
Is that a bayonet by his side? Infantry regiment then??

Any help will be much appreciated
Thank you
Tony

[I do not have the original pic so best scan I can get.]
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 November 08 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Difficult...But possibly 7th City Of London Royal Fusiliers
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Scrimnet, I see what you mean........the rounded base and 'fiery' top do look like a fusilier regiment.

Tony
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 11:18 GMT (UK) »
I think it may be fairly early war, he has slip on titles, so around 1940...

There also doesn't appear to be any divisional signs or other tribal distinctions...and he has 1937 ptn uniform, and has the khaki Field Service Cap...Again all pointers to 1939/40...

Was he TA? He appears to in be a tented camp, So drill on grass...Just a thought

and with him in drill order (belt and bayonet for Mk III* SMLE) I would say he's just been doing drill....

The 7th would fit in with him being a Londoner...But beware of "local" Regts in WW2!!
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your observations Scrimnet.

Sidney was born in 1914 and was unlikely, I think, to have been a regular soldier. The 'training' scenario makes good sense.

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Tony
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Well...I can  tell you for deffo he wasn't Home Guard... ;D

Wrong gaiters (anklets, web) round his ankles, and wrong belt (the HG never wore 37ptn) and wrong bayonet!

Also there is no HG or LDV brassard... ;)

So deffo a "proper" soldier...
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 16:36 GMT (UK) »
By 'not regular' I meant not a career soldier but a territorial called up for the duration.
You spotted the tents. They seem to be hidden away in the trees. It does look kind of temporary doesn't it? I like your drill idea.

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Tony
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LEAH'S of Emley in Yorkshire, Shoreditch and Hackney
WILSON'S of Islington,Clerkenwell, Canterbury
CHESHER'S of Hertford
BILTON'S of Hertford
ROGERS of Lambeth and Colchester
FREITAG'S of London and Lottin,Pomerania.

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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 17:07 GMT (UK) »
I knew what you meant mate! ;)

Just for info that was! 8)

There are several orders of dress for the Army which have changed very little over the years..."Drill Order" is one of them.

Actually given that he only has belt and bayonet on...he could be doing little else!! ;D ;D
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Re: Which 'Mob'??
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Tents in tress = camoflague...

Here is another representation of such bell Tents...

One more charge and then be dumb,
            When the forts of Folly fall,
        May the victors when they come
            Find my body near the wall.
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