South Lancashire Regiment soldier

[princessblackfoot]

Wow I am amazed by the response and so grateful for all your interest.

My grandfather was William Lapping born at preston Barracks in June after his father died in February. The information I have I got from the Friends of the Queens Regiment Museum who were fantastic but couldn't enlighten me further. The information about where he served is taken from the 1901 census which listed his sons and their birthplaces and the fact  that by then Elizabeth was a widow. I got the marriage certificate from my Uncle and the fact that he also possesses a medal for John Joseph. His father is listed as John  Lapping occupation Joiner.

I have searched Ancestry Census records and Birth and Marriage records but have failed to match anything up. The photograph shows him in uniform as a colour sereant which he is listed as on his marriage certificate and his two English born sons birth certificates. He must have been demoted before he died.

My father did use to say that his dad was part scouse and part Irish which would seem to suggest that the 1861 census for Liverpool could be his mother (Mary Judge) but I can't find any definite links. and this would also mean that both he and Elizabeth lied on their marriage certificate , she saying she was five years older that she actually was and him five years younger?

I have now been looking for this elusive man for 3 years and he is the reason I first started looking.

Thank you all so much.

Aly

[liverpool annie]

What regiment does it say on his marriage certificate and the boys birth certs Aly ?

I'm just asking because I went round and round the houses looking for my Granddad in the South Lancs and one day out of the blue I looked at my Grandmas death certificate and found out he had transferred to the Rifle Brigade ... and it had been sitting in front of me all that time !! 

Annie 

[princessblackfoot]

Jeannie I just re read your reply properly and you seem to have hit on something I have not seen before  that being the marriage of John Lappin and Mary Judge, couple that with the fact John Judge is an apprentice joiner ....? I can hopefully pop into the Liverpool Library soon and get to the bottom of that one in the Parish records.

This looks quite promising

Aly

[princessblackfoot]

Hi Annie

on the marriage certificate it says he is a colour Sergeant in the 1st South Lancashire Regiment stationed at Buena Vista Barracks, Gibraltar

On alberts Birth certificate (born 1895 Orford Barracks Warrington) he is a colour Sergeant South Lancashire Regiment.
On My Grandfather William Gorge's Certificate (born 1900 Fulwood Barracks Preston) he is listed as deceased, Corporal, South Lancashire Regiment. so not very helpful. He did transfer from the 1st Battalion to the 2nd Battalion just prior to them sailing for South Africa in December 1899, according to the Researcher in the Regimental Museum.

He was postumously awarded the South Africa Medal with the Relief of Ladysmith Clasp in April 1901

I am struggling because the family were never very close and my dad moved away from the age of 17 and it was only really after his death that we made any real contact again and I have very few actually people to talk to about this.

Aly

[gillm]

Hi Everyone!

I am  researching my family history and my great uncle was PTe Harold Wright from Chester serving in the 8th South lancs regiment and sadly killed on 16th October 1917 and is buried in Woburn Cemetery Cuinchy. I would love to know more about where he fought, which battle he was killed in and who his comrades were. I am the head of his family now and there are no living relatives that I am aware of to ask - would welcome offers of help.

Regards

Gillm

[princessblackfoot]

Hi Gillm

I found out quite a lot from the Friends of the South lancashire regiment. I just wrote to them at the museum in Preston giving what details I had and they did some research for me. I think there may have been a small charge, but they will advise you of that. Give me a minute and I will find the address for you.

[princessblackfoot]

Hi Gillm

I wrote to the Friends of the Museum of the Queens Lancashire Regiment at fulwood Bareacks, Preston,PR2 8AA. I am a newbie myself and I was astonished by the speed and amount of help I got from my enquiry. These people are real experts.

[John Young]

The soldier is a Sergeant, Royal Artillery, pre-1880 full dress tunic.

Post-1880 grenades were worn on the collar of full dress tunic.

Isandlwana

[km1971]

Hi Aly

I am confused why the child (William) was born in Preston. The Depot of the South Lancs was in Warrington (sharing with the Liverpools). The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment had it's Depot in Preston.

The number 1026 would have been issued in the early 1880s. Can you say on which occasions the number was quoted - marriage, 1895 birth, 1900 birth, Boer War casualty roll?

Ken