HAWKINS Family

[TrishaG]

Hi
can someone find this girl for me?
She should be living in Great Marlow or in one of the surrounding villages or towns.

Mary Ann HAWKINS-age c 10-b Bucks?
Richard Hawkins-father

Many thanks,
Trisha 

[Peonynon]

Hi,

Sorry I do not have the answer but another person was asking for information on the same theme yesterday.

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,341108.0.html

or  the post headed


Great Marlow Marriages about 1777 

James R Yeowell about third from the bottom.

Peony

[gazania]

Hi,

No Richard Hawkins residing in Bucks in 1841 census.  Only candidate for a Mary (not Ann) is HO 107/54/6 and 7. Wendover Green

Sarah Hawkins 45 lacemaker
plus a no of children including
Mary aged 15 b in county

Best wishes Gazania.

[TrishaG]

Hi Gazania,
could you tell me if the names of the other children in the Hawkins family?Also,I can't remember if it says if someone is married ,widowed etc on the 1841.If it does can you say what Sarah Hawkins is.
One other thing,if you don't mind doing it,could you see if there's a Richard Hawkins living in Henley on Thames and if he has a family or not?
Many thanks,
Trisha 

[James R. Yeowell]

Trisha,

I see you're taking on my own family yourself now, it's much appreciated!  I guess all this searching has got you champing at the bit?

Hopefully the Richard Hawkins in Henley-upon-Thames in 1841 is mine... however, I doubt I will be able to tell, due to the fact the 1841 census does not show place of birth, only whether they were born in the county (or Scotland or Ireland).

For those out of the loop, a Richard Hawkins was buried in 1843 in Great Marlow aged 43, but was of Henley.  I gather there was a Cholera epidemic in Great Marlow around that time and it seems he may have moved away from Great Marlow.  Henley-upon-Thames is just down the river Thames of course.

I have also noticed other Hawkins' in Henley, so he may have moved there with other family members or be from Henley in the first place.

Mary Ann Hawkins was my 2nd Great Grandmother.  Her father was Richard Hawkins (as per marriage certificate).  She married John Charles Yeowell (also known as just John or Charles Yeowell) on 21 January 1855 at St. Giles Cripplegate, London.

She was born about 1830 (source: marriage certificate and 2 census entries) in Little Marlow (as per 1871 census) or Marlow (as per 1861 census).  I have yet to locate her in the 1851 census but there is a Mary Ann Hawkins resident in Berkhamsted at the time who fits age wise.

She died 25 January 1878 in Walworth, St. Saviour, Surrey.

I hope eventually that my ancestor Mary Ann Hawkins can be located.

Again, thanks Trish!

Best regards,

James.

[TrishaG]

Hi James,
no problem,it's all very interesting.It's  a bit like a detective story.
I too can't pay for the census on Ancestry so I ask for lookups on here and everyones been so helpful over the years.
Have you ever been to Little Marlow cemetary?Are any of your relatives buried there do you think?
Trisha 

[gazania]

Hi,

1841 census Henley Oxon HO107/874/4

Richard HAWKINS  butcher 40 Not born in county
Catherine     35 N
Richard   15 N
Michael    12 N
Georgiana  9 N

My connection then failed so I shall get back to you.  There were 33 Richards aged 35-45 for most of UK, remembering ages for adults are rounded down.  This is the only Henley Richard.  Does his occupation fit with your info.  Regards, Gazania

Gazania

[James R. Yeowell]

Thanks Gazania,

Well from this, I can determine that this Richard Hawkins is the one who married a Catherine and had a child in Great Marlow (I shall look this up in a moment).  There was another Richard Hawkins (or possibly the same one) living in Great Marlow around the same time, who was married to a Sarah.

Actually, I don't think I have noted down Richard Hawkins' occupation... I really should check this.  I have the witnesses from Mary Ann Hawkins' marriage to John Charles Yeowell though and none of them really tie-in to family.  William Mattingly and Jane Argyle are the witnesses.  I note a lot of Mattinglys in the Buckinghamshire area though but also in St. Giles Cripplegate, where they married, so they could have just been family friends.

Addendum: Here's some further details from Trisha

Burials in Great Marlow:

1847-14th March-Matilda-of  Henley-age 4
1846-11th March-Catherine-age 46
1843-8th Jan-Richard-of Henley,Oxon-age 43

Catherine is likely the wife of Richard Hawkins resident in Henley in 1841.  Matilda seems to be a child of this couple.

Baptism from Great Marlow:

1832
19th Jan - Georgina Isabella-daughter of Richard and Catherine-Butcher

This is the same daughter noted in the 1841 census entry.

Therefore, it seems that Richard Hawkins and his wife may have moved away from Great Marlow in about 1832, due to a Cholera epidemic.  There was also later smallpox in Great Marlow also, which may mean they remained in Henley but decided to be buried in Great Marlow.

It therefore seems likely that Richard Hawkins was born in Great Marlow, or considered the place his residence when not in Henley.


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I shall have to contact my 2nd cousin who has the marriage certificate for the above (I believe I have it somewhere too but I've miss-placed my paper records!) and see if there is noted down an occupation for Richard Hawkins and also whether it marks him as deceased or not.

I don't suppose you could also look up a Mary Ann Hawkins, aged 20, who appears in Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire, in the 1851 census?  The reason I ask is that when I typed in Buckinghamshire as the search query, this lady came up.  Berkhampsted is in Hertfordshire, however, which makes me suspect this Mary Ann Hawkins was born in Buckinghamshire.  Her age fits with the Mary Ann Hawkins I am searching for, so it maybe worth checking this entry out.

I can always post the above request in the Herts board, if not.

Thanks for searching for this, it's much appreciated.

Regards,

James R. Yeowell.

[James R. Yeowell]

Hi,

1841 census Henley Oxon HO107/874/4

Richard HAWKINS  butcher 40 Not born in county
Catherine     35 N
Richard   15 N
Michael    12 N
Georgiana  9 N

My connection then failed so I shall get back to you.  There were 33 Richards aged 35-45 for most of UK, remembering ages for adults are rounded down.  This is the only Henley Richard.  Does his occupation fit with your info.  Regards, Gazania

Gazania

I've just had a look on the IGI and found some children of Richard and Catherine in Medmenham, Buckinghamshire:

Richard Hawkins, 31 January 1825, christened 31 January 1825, Medmenham, Bucks
John Hawkins, 28 March 1827, christened 4 November 1827, Medmenham, Bucks
Michael Hawkins, born 15 April 1829, christened 17 May 1829, Medmenham, Bucks

John Hawkins is not resident in the 1841 census with the family, so he perhaps could have died young.

It then seems the family moved to Great Marlow, where they had Georgina Isabella Hawkins.

Then they moved to Henley after that, probably due to the above mentioned Cholera and Smallpox outbreak.  Matilda Hawkins was not baptised in Great Marlow and may have in fact been a daughter of George Hawkins and Hannah.

Matilda Hawkins, christened 29 September 1843, Adderbury, Oxfordshire.

George Hawkins married in Adderbury though and had several other children all baptised there, so it seems they may not have a link to Great Marlow at all.

However, both Richard, Catherine and Matilda Hawkins were all buried in Great Marlow, rather than Medmenham, so would this mean that Richard Hawkins may have not been from Medmenham originally?

Regards,

James R. Yeowell