Stanley Family - Sussex to London

[shawaii]

Naughty boy!! I have found the records for the first couple of posts you have put, saving them now for reference. I'm so excited after so much searching - another brick wall climbed for now. Brilliant to have such a great site as this one, never knew it existed until I googled. Such brilliant people too spending their own time helping others. Back to the seach........

[shawaii]

I think I may be finding some relatives of the original Vandelo, all same area of birth and most hawkers or basket makers........... 

[Emsworthy]

Now, I know we're looking for Emily, but I'm trying to close the net!!

1871

Florence? Lane, Oving, Sussex

Vandelo Stanley, Head, 67, Hawker, N K
Sarah Stanley, Wife, 65, Hawker, N K

RG10/1115 F 107 P 46

Regards, Emma

[shawaii]

Checked this out and agree Florence Lane seems probable. No sign of any other Stanleys nearby, I went over pevious pages. The Romany genes web site has loads on there too, but sadly still no sign of Emilene / Emily prior to 1872 on second marriage. Will have to keep plodding along. She also had an Emilene / Emily daug. Keturia daug. Edis daug. can't find any apart from Emily as she was my greatgran. Was told via the family Emily the daug was only 16 when she married and first born was Selina but again no records and she only survived a few years - apparently. Thanks again though for the leads you have given me Emma, at least I have loads to keep me occupied for a while 

[Al Ralph]

Hi
My name is Alan Ralph
I think we are looking for the same family history
My records go back to the same as you for Emily Carter and Francis light
My Nan  lived in the Fulham caravan site as a child Violet Thompson born 1908 who’s mother was Edith Thompson
My Nan who died 2005 could remember the light circus in her family
I haven’t subscribed to my ancestry for a while so am only going from memory


Many thanks

[cuffie81]

Welcome to RoostChat Alan. Sue hasn't been on RootsChat for several years but with a bit of luck she'll get a notification of your message. No doubt other RootsChat users will be happy to help with your search though.

As for Emily, there's a newspaper item that provides a bit more proof that Vandelo was her father. It also implies her marriage to Mr Carter was before Aug 1862.

There are numerous newspaper items referencing Vandelo Stanley but they may not all be for Emily's father, as at least one refers to Vandelo Stanley the elder. I'll have a dig around and see if I can find anything else re. Emily.


Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette
09 Aug 1862
City Bench - Monday - Before the Mayor, Dr. Tyacke, W. Gruggen, T H Clark and B Adams. Vandelo Stanley, and Emily Stanley, his daughter, gipsies, were charged with assaulting Mary, wife of Charles Stanley, another of their tribe on Saturday last. Mr Fraser appeared for the complainant. Complainant stated that she was selling beer at Goodwood during the race week, and the defendants kept annoying her. On Saturday she saw the defendants near Mr Light's shop at Eastgate.  Complainant went into the shop, and when she came out the defendants were passing by, and she heard Emily say, "I'll knock her eye out if I get six months for it." She shortly afterwards came up and struck her several times in the face. She heard the man Stanley say, "Give it to her Emily." Other witnesses gave corroborative evidence of the assault, and Emily Stanley was fined 10s and 8s costs, and Vandelo Stanley 10s and 10s costs, or in default to be imprisoned for 21 days' each. The fines were paid.

A cross summons had been taken out by Emily Stanley or Carter (Stanley being her maiden name) against Charles Stanley, which was heard at the same Bench. The assault arose out of the same affair, and after hearing the evidence, the mayor said that although they were of opinion that the defendant had not acted properly, nor that he was entirely free from blame in the matter, yet they should dismiss the case and hoped that his tribe in future would live more peaceably.

[Al Ralph]

I have also found this reference to Emily Carter

[shawaii]

Welcome to RoostChat Alan. Sue hasn't been on RootsChat for several years but with a bit of luck she'll get a notification of your message. No doubt other RootsChat users will be happy to help with your search though.


There are numerous newspaper items referencing Vandelo Stanley but they may not all be for Emily's father, as at least one refers to Vandelo Stanley the elder. I'll have a dig around and see if I can find anything else re. Emily.

Hi and thanks for the notification which I was very pleased to receive. I don’t seem to have much time nowadays but I do still pick up the trail.

I will look again at the updates and new info on my big screen when I get a minute. I have found Francis resting place finally, but as in life my elusive GGGranddad’s actual grave wasn't entered in the records.

Lots of other snippets. Be back soon. Best regards Sue

[Al Ralph]

Hi Sue
Thanks for getting back to me
I would appreciate any information on Francis and Emily.Have you any info on their siblings as I’m trying to link them to my late nan would have lived on the caravan site in Fulham as a child.Her mother was Edith Thomson when married and light when spinster . I’m trying to link the circus which I believe was called light as she always mentioned it.
Many thanks