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« on: Tuesday 16 December 08 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hiya all. New member here. I am looking to locate a possible error in my brother in law's name

Anybody got a clue where I begin with this please!

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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Elizabet and a warm welcome to Rootschat :)

Your post is a little confusing (to me at least) but this death looks promising:

Kenneth John MacGregor
Birthdate: 3 Jun 1933
Death registered: Apr 1997
Sandwell, West Midlands 
Register number: B50 
District and Subdistrict: 0701B 
Entry Number: 212 


Are you saying that this Kenneth, born 1933, came to England in 1938 - when he would have been 5 - to search for his mother?  I don't really understand how that could be!

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Elizabet

I have had a quick look at Scottish Records and can't find anything for the dates you gave.
There was one possible - Kenneth James K Macgregor born 1929, but this was in Dunoon.

I did a quick look up of marriages but there was nothing for Macgregor with either Krabbe, Crabbe or Hodnett.

It may be worth talking to any living relatives and re-checking dates.

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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Elizabet

I have had a quick look at Scottish Records and can't find anything for the dates you gave.
There was one possible - Kenneth James K Macgregor born 1929, but this was in Dunoon.

I did a quick look up of marriages but there was nothing for Macgregor with either Krabbe, Crabbe or Hodnett.

It may be worth talking to any living relatives and re-checking dates.

Sandgrounder

Hi Sandgrounder

I don't have any credits, but looking for a Kenneth MacGregor 1932-1934 it's saying there's one match (?)

(Elizabet, the site we are looking at for Scottish records is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, a pay-per-view site).

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Anna

I only quoted one with the "J" middle initial.  There were a couple more within the dates but none seemed to be in th Glasgow area and none had a second name

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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Anna

I only quoted one with the "J" middle initial.  There were a couple more within the dates but none seemed to be in th Glasgow area and none had a second name

Sandgrounder

Fair enough!

Well, for what it's worth, here's a Beatrice M Hodnett from the West Midlands, as indexed on www.freebmd.org.uk:

Birth Sep qtr 1909      
Hodnett  Beatrice M     
W.Bromwich 6b 889
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 11:04 GMT (UK) »
...and a birth of a Kenneth:

Birth Sep qtr 1933*

Hodnett Kenneth J (mother's maiden name Hodnett)
West Bromwich 6b 1006

* this quarter covers registrations from 1 July to 30 September so is consistent with a June birth being registered within the 6-week time limit.

Anna :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing a MacGregor adoption
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Possible death for Beatrice:

Beatrice Maud Crabb
Birthdate: 16 Jul 1909
Death registered: Aug 1989
Sandwell, West Midlands 
Volume: 33 
Page: 1050 
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing a Mallins adoption
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 December 08 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all. Avm 228: your remarks look promising, sincere thanks.
I have never understood it all. My in law is a Mallins (apparently!) and mentions what seem to be myths regarding his ancestry.
I am from Cirencester and know little about ireland, having never visited, but with a recent family death, my in laws keep foning me with circular stories, and I glean what I can from them, and try and confirm details as a goodwill gesture with a funeral about to ensue.
As I can understand, a miss Hoggs married a sidney or cyrus crane (spellings variate) later in life, who was a fellow boarder at a guest house.
Where Mr kannit comes into it all I cannot say, but am told - insistently - that he was born in a castle in Renfrewshire or Paisley  and was due to be adopted by a Mr Edwards kannit had a half brother called Tony Crane who was younger, so maybe a second marriage was apparent somewhere!
Wish I had never offered to pursue this now! But thank you again all posters for your assistance