Author Topic: Could someone please help?!  (Read 10704 times)

Offline Charles IX

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • GGG-Grandfather Ambrose Pontin 1830-1907
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 December 08 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Peter + Chris!

Thats great. Now I know if I wanted to get David Andrew senior it wouldnt be under that name would it, its like when you get this far back the names get wierd I cant think what its called now starts with P.  :-\
Charles, late1600> - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell abt.1820 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1716 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1723 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1740 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1819> - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1820> - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

*Absolutely any information about the Llanddeusant area*

Offline Fisherman

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,158
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 December 08 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Good Morning and Merry Christmas.

You mean patrynomics.
Caused me many a headache until Evan John named his son Evan and gave birth to our Evans Line  ;D

Chris
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

Offline Charles IX

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • GGG-Grandfather Ambrose Pontin 1830-1907
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 25 December 08 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Sorry forgot to say Merry Christmas!

Yeah partynomic thats what I was thinking of, I just dont understand it at all! What would I put in to find David Andrew?
Charles, late1600> - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell abt.1820 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1716 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1723 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1740 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1819> - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1820> - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

*Absolutely any information about the Llanddeusant area*

Offline Fisherman

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,158
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 25 December 08 10:37 GMT (UK) »
If patrynomics come into play David Andrew's father would have the surname David.

It works like this
John David would name his son william, William would be known as William (ap) John.
Ap meaning son of.
Thats how we got surnames like Price (from ap Rice) Powell from (ap Hywel) Pritchard (from ap Richard) etc.
Think I got it right

Chris
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk


Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,138
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 25 December 08 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Duke, Chris, Peter  :)

I've got a lot of Montgomeryshire records and, if you can wait a while, I'll go through them to see if I can find anything more about this family.

Season's Greetings


Gadget 
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

Offline Fisherman

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,158
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 25 December 08 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget

Thanks for the offer.

Chris
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

Offline Charles IX

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • GGG-Grandfather Ambrose Pontin 1830-1907
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 25 December 08 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Yes thank you for the offer! Any help I would be more than greatful  ;D
Charles, late1600> - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell abt.1820 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1716 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1723 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1740 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1819> - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1820> - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

*Absolutely any information about the Llanddeusant area*

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,138
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi  :)

Just a bit more to add ~

Marriage: June Quarter, 1860, Newtown, vol 11b, page 443

David Andrew and Hannah Evans are on the same page.

This should list David's parents. father (Amended - I've been doing too many Scottish look ups  ::) )


The only baptism circa 1825 that I can find is the one that Chris found - May 1825, parents David Andrew and Elizabeth (Reply #17 above)


The latest marriage that I can find is this one. If it is the correct one then they would have been married 18-19 years by the time David was born:

13 Sept 1806 Betws Cedewain:  David Andrew ( son of Thomas Andrew, Tregynon) and Elizabeth Williams (d/o Thomas Williams). By Licence.
Witnesses - James Davies and Richard Pryce.

Llanwddelan, Tregynon and Betws Cedewain aren't too far apart.


Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,138
    • View Profile
Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 16:47 GMT (UK) »
If the 1806 marriage is them, the index to the licences and allegations are all up on the National Library site:

http://isys.llgc.org.uk/

You can then get the reference and order a copy from Aberystwyth.


Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***