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*COMPLETED* HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« on: Monday 29 December 08 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking for 1841-1861 census listings for Joseph and Sarah Handley (who were in Brimfield in 1871 with children Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Thomas and Richard). 

Also - Sarah, the mom, was born in Kington (don't know her maiden name), so I wonder if she and Joseph were married there c. 1859. 

My father-in-law said that one of the children of this family was quite involved in the Salvation Army, so if there's any info in that regard I'd appreciate it too.  Maybe Sarah's family was the connection? 

Thanks,
cassiar
Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 December 08 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Got them on the 1861 census in Llandingat, Carmathenshire

Kings Rd
Joseph Handley  H  Mar  32  Farm merchant  bn Hereford, Eardisland
Sarah Handley  W  Mar  24  Dittos wife  bn Radnor, Kington
Sarah E Handley  Dau  3  Scholar  bn Hereford, Eardisland
Elizabeth Handley  Dau  11mnths  bn Hereford, Eardisland
John Carry  boarder  67 Baker?  bn Devon, Tiverton
RG9/4122/65/11

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 December 08 23:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a possible marriage on freebmd - Joseph Handley may have married Sarah Turner  Dec qtr 1857, Presteigne 11b 363

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Spidermonkey - the 1861 info is great!  Would a "farm merchant" have sold implements to farmers or bought and sold farms or....? 
The marriage to Sarah Turner could be right.  It's the right time frame and general area.  I'm not sure how this could be confirmed.
Also I found a Joseph Handley born in 1830 in Eardisland whose father was also Joseph Handley (mother Sarah ?) - on the IGI. 
Any luck with the 1851/1841 censuses?
cassiar
Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae


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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 January 09 17:38 GMT (UK) »
I did see some possibilities, but have just walked in after a couple of days away so will post later tonight/tomorrow!

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 January 09 21:16 GMT (UK) »
I can't say with absolute certainty that this is your family, but everything seems to fit!

1841 HO107/426/17/7 Round? House, Eardisland
Joseph Handley  50   Farmer
Sarah Handley  46
James Handley  15
Ann Handley  14
Joseph Handley  11
Mary Handley  8

All born in county

In 1851, all except Joseph are still at ROund House, Eardisland:
HO107/1979/321/9
Joseph Handley  Head  Mar  66  Farmer of 13 acres  bn Kinnersley
Sarah Handley  Wife  Mar  58  Farmers wife  bn Eardisland
James Handley  son  unm  25  Farmers son  bn Burton
Ann Handley  dau  unm  23  Farmers dau  bn Burton
Mary Handley  dau  unm  18  Farmers dau  bn Burton
All place are Herefordshire

There is a Joseph Handley (unmarried, aged 20, bn Eardisland) who is a farm servant in the household of Henry Hall in Ashton, Eye, Herefordshire  (HO107/1981/424/11)

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 23:05 GMT (UK) »
I very much appreciate your help Spidermonkey.  I was away for a couple weeks so am just getting back to this now.
Thanks,
cassiar
Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 March 09 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spidermonkey,

Would you please check the 1841 census in or around Kington for a Turner family with a daughter Sarah (who would be 3 or 4), and if you find them, also the 1851 census for that family.

And also, do you have access to the 1891 census, and if so, would you please look up Joseph and Sarah Handley?  They were in Richard's Castle in 1881 and still had young children. 

Thanks

cassiar
Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 March 09 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cassiar,

Here is a possible entry for Joseph and Sarah in the 1891 census
44 Maylord St, Hereford
Joseph Handley  Head  Mar  64  Engine driver  bn Pembridge, Hereford  Disabled
Sarah Handley  Wife  Mar 56  bn Kington, Herefordshire
Richard W Handley  Son  22  Railway porter  bn Brimfield
Ellenor Handley  Dau 14  Scholar  bn Shropshire Wooferton
Charles H Handley  Son  11  Scholar  bn Shropshire Wooferton
Frances Handley  Son  8  Scholar  bn Shropshire Wooferton
RG12; Piece: 2061; Folio 48; Page 38